engine replacement

[Warren]

I agree with Ben.

And no it wouldn hurt to dint it a bit , but I would wait till you get it back under the van befor going at it with a hammer.

Warren

im just thowing an idea out there.

it looks like the right sump to me.


you dont have anything supporting the back of the motor. once the motor and gearbox goes in it will be supported by trany crossmember. so it will lift it up and you should have an inch clearance or something.

at the moment the motor is being supported by your engine mounts and crain yeh?


ben

[hotrod]

Do it once do it right. Don't get this far and looking this nice only to smack it with a bit of wood and a hammer. If you were paying for it would you accept that??? for the sake of a bit of kero and some elbow grease make it pretty!

[obsession]

comon benny you can do it!!! 

[John Abbott]

Hey Able.....Good to see you getting there. Here is a pic of what the sump looked like when i got my truck. Please dont do this to any sump!. The sump i needed was from a early torana (lc-lj) Try some engine reco places or maybe a wreckers. You will need the longer oil pickup as well.

cheers...johnno 

[able]

i will get it back under and install the gear box and if i do not have the clearance i will swap to the 186 sump and pick up. it had enough clearance.

how much clearance is enough and do i put lock tight on the four bolts to join the front end to the chassis?

[Marishka]

thanx Johnno,
i personally wouldnt want a sump like that on my motor.
plus maybe a rego check pinkslip check may fail it with a sump thats been caved in with a donkometer. ,

do the job once and right i say, u will feel more confidence in your van 2.

marty

[able]

i was thinking about the slightest of dints. the one in johns pic looks like it was run over three times and then they kicked it for good measure.

if it come down to that i would use a thick one inch dowel horizontally and make a professional (ish) looking dint or remove the pan completely and use a hammer and dolly....

as you can see from my pic im not out by much and bens theory will probably be correct as it will not only lift up but away.

anyone that does what is shown in john's example is one lazy and unsafe fella and the motor was obviously another two to three inches more forward compared to the cross member then mine.

hey john your pic needs to be in a new section called "mechanical epic fails" 

clad you spotted and sorted it, i would hate to find that under a new purchase.

thanks for the example!

[pickmeup]

I am trying to remember if it was this site or another but you can reverse or replace the oil pickup so that you can cut and weld the sump into a new spot...mmm I think it was in a rod mag somewhere...
I will get back to ya!

[Worzel]

i would get that sump off the old 186.
the torana one fits, the rest NOT (i think )
http://holdenpaedia.oldholden.com/Sumps for photo comparison 

[Bas NZ]

Worzel, you are right, the Torana fits with about 2" gap from crossmember, I have this on mine, before I had a HQ and it always rubed untill I took to it with a hammer, could not get a Torana at that time, as they are getting hard to find over here.