Diff Info

[able]

yeh will be reving a bit able but not too much.. maybe 3grand at 100 or something around that.. put a celica box behind yours with the overdrive and it would be perfect!! not worth that much.. i picked up a conversion kit and box for $150

ben

will the celica box fit straight in with no diff mods? is that a supra 5 speed???  (not up with all the names...)

[ben]

toyota celica gearbox and toyota supra are different. the supras are quite a bit stronger. they put them behind v8s quite oftern.

celicas are plenty strong enough for the holden 6's

you wont need to modify your diff. but you will need to get your tailshaft modifyed.. and if you dont have a friend that can do it cheap you could end up spending more on the tail shaft mod than to buy the gearbox... ask morgan!! $300 later!!

oh and speedo cable.. last one i got custom made cost me $133 but that was just a bloke out of the paper..
ben

[able]

might just stick with the m21..... ill put up with the high revs if it means cheap parts and plug and play.

[SandB]

Hi Everyone, We are the proud owners of ex Niel Appleby- Lyndon CF van and are experiencing some difficulties in doing more than 150ks out of Port Pirie!!
First attempt t go t Adelaide 2 weeks ago was, was terminated at the 100 k mark (back home; get new power steering idler made) and away we go!  $300 thankyou!!
Nah!Off we go last weekend, just Adelaide side of Port Wakefield; we have no drive happening!!
Towed back into Wakefield, Broken axle!!!

Now the problem appears t be getting a new (s/hand axle) From what the mechanic tells me is that I have light duty axles? I know from Niels thread I have a 3.5 diff ratio!1

Question?? does this mean I have a standard CF Highway diff???  What are my options; we need t get it going pronto; so we can make it to Geelong!!!!

Sorry about the essay; but we need some experienced "Guidence""

Cheers Brian & Carole ---------------------------------I'm still trying t 

[obsession]

3.5 center diff I dont think is a standard beddy ratio. can you post a pick of the diff?  count the splines on the end of the axles they should be a fine spline if its a borg warner center? If your in a hurry maybe your best bet would be chris ryan? what stud pattern are you running on the rear? if youv got a converted diff you should see the welds on the outside of the axles about 100-150 mill from the center out as below.




You may be able to find a good machine shop to make a new one but going that rout will cost you.
really lets see what diff you have.Im sure we can all put our heads together.

[SandB]

Hi Craig, Thats the problem; the van is over a 100 ks away. To my knowledge there is no welds on the diff!! I think my best bet is t contact Niel Appleby as he should know whats in it!!

Cheers and thanks Brian

[eddy]

geez if you were closer I would lend you one of mine, Im taking the salisbury diff out of the tow beddie and putting the 9" under, the salisbury comes with a holden stud pattern but is way too narrow for my liking

[obsession]

taken from old site.

Hey guys. Ive decided to sell my van mostly because i just dont have the time anymore to get her the way i want her (work, bands and drinkin are getting in the way). I have had her for about 5 years but only driven for the last year but she has never let me down.

I was ganna just chuck it on ebay but figured i would post it here first. Im asking 3,000 but am negotiable and am located in beenleigh QLD.

email nsappleby@optusnet.com.au for questions or to get a contact number (i dont post phone numbers on public forums).

Any way heres the details.........

She is a 1978 SWB running a 93 VP commodore V6 and 4L60 (T700) 4 speed auto with QLD engineers certificate.

Back doors are welded up and the side door lifts up like a gull wing door (was like this when I bought it). CD player with 2 6x9's speakers in the back and one 6x9 speaker drivers side and one 5inch speaker pasenger side. inside is carpeted on floor and walls and roof (Roof is missing one pannel of carpet).

The diff is a borg warner 3.50:1 ratio (needs new pinon seal).

Front end was rebuilt a few years back with new ball joints, tie rods, control arm bushes etc.
has HQ front disks (not engineered), and new shockies on the front. I think the back ones need replacement as their is a bit of a knocking noise in the back end when hitting big bumps. She runs HQ stud pattern on the front and beddy on the back with 14x7 jelly bean mags with relitivly new 235/60 tyres (about 95% tread left).

I f@#ked up the pickup pipe and sender in the fuel tank. so from full to empty is only about 40ltres (cause it doesnt reach the other 20 ltres). Fuel consumption is getting me about 300 - 350 klms on around 40ltres of fuel (ive never run out of fuel just the most ive ever been able to get in it is about 43ltrs).

Body needs some attention, paint is a bit rough (I sprayed it my self and didnt do a very good job). A little bit of rust is starting to come through on the gutter channels and a few other places. I sanded back and treated most of the rust years ago but becasue i couldnt weld back then theres a little bit of bog through out.

She is currently registered but needs a tidy-up for a RWC so no RWC suplied. Personalised plates (Eropean plates Q 78 CF Z) will go with it.

Ive got a beddy manual and a Vp commodore manual that will go with it and ill chuck in a copy of a 4l60 rebuild manual as well as some front end parts and other odds and ends.

I think thats about all. Its sad cause ive had her for so long but its time for me to move on.

hope these photos work and photos of the engine can be found here..........




so she should be a borg warner your mechanic should know . so im thinking 31fine spline merlin?

[SandB]

Thanks Craig, Will contact Niel, just to confirm what you have said.

All help greatly appreciated. There is a wrecked one here in Pirie, but don't know whats in it and whats for sale?? Will go see him tomorrow!!!

Cheers Brian

[Worzel]

Diffs can be a nightmare!
More info and a few photos and we'll crack it for ya.
If you have a bedford stud pattern and a BW centre then there should be a weld somewhere along the axle housing.
There are two (?) ways of getting the axle into the diff.
-Some machine the axle to fit the BW planetary gears,
-some broach the gears to match the axle (means you can just slide the replacement axle in)

But if there's no weld and it's not a bedford stud pattern that's different.
so.......
What stud pattern?
Is there a weld anywhere between the centre and the brakes (both sides, all around)

Light duty axle is what? There's only one size in single wheel bedfords axles as far as i know - but i am often learning new things when it comes to bedford mutations (i assume heavy duty is a dually?)
I think beddys are 35mm dia from memory - don't quote me.
And i think i know a man in melb with wheel bearings if you need one