V8 pictures

[Zeeman]

The lowest mounted engine I've seen was a 350 chev in an old custom van for sale here in Melbourne. The front of the engine mounted with a plate to the rear of the crossmember (kinda hard to see in pic). The motor was very low, weight balance would have been good. Motor was quite far back.

[ShaneJ]

Here is a pic of the underneath.. sump is pretty deep.. with a modified sump & different mounts the motor could be a bit lower.
The engine cover is pretty big too.

Thanks for posting this one. If you had used a rear sump that engine would have sat a lot lower.

[MaTTe]

Zeeman, my 350 is mounted similar to the red block on page 3. I use the bolt holes on the lower front of the block mounting to different engine mounts. the harmonic balancer pulley sits around 5mm off the crossmember.

Shane, I dont have any first hand experience of the 300ci six, however from previous research, in standard form (and modified most likely) the 300ci will produce more torque throughout the entire rev range than a 302ci v8 which is understandable based on the 6 larger pistons making up the capacity compared to the 8 of a 302ci. In terms of modification the 300ci has less options of aftermarket performance parts, tho I have no doubt there are parts available. The head could be worked like any iron head, the intake could be custom built out of tube steel/aly to suit your requirements and I'm sure there is somewhere that makes a custom cam for it. Get the dizzy recurved and modified for HEI, put some GOOD plug wires on it and a coil and you'll likely see some good HP with killer torque. If you make a manifold to suit triple webbers or the like, you'll have a true monster.

[Zeeman]

I didn't build the green van with the Windsor, the previous owner did all the mechanical work. The work was all very well thought out except the engine being a little high.

After owning & seeing a few different V8 Bedfords, I think for any future build I would definitely use the same mounting as the Chev above, mounting the front of the engine to the rear of the crossmember as low as possible. The handling of the above van was great by all reports.

302 stroker kits are quite cheap. Less than 1500 for a good quality 347ci stroker kit. You will notice the difference in torque.

[ShaneJ]

With my van my aim isn't for max power or torque, its mainly realistic ease of fitment and also efficiency.  When you want to do regular 6000k trips you don't want to be chewing 30L of fuel every 100k's 

[Zeeman]

Put it on LPG. I have a 1971 Mustang with a 393 stroker on gas, costs $30 to fill up & lasts most of the week..

One of my old Bedfords had a 150 litre gas tank fitted across the back & a small Impco carby, it was great. This was back in the days when LPG was 25c a litre! I think Gas Research make a carby that fits the same as a Holley carby, air cleaner/linkages & all, flows up to 750cfm but can also be tuned to be quite efficient.

[Marishka]

I just bought a fully recond 351 cleveland /Lpg, and fully recond  tricked up c6, out of a ford GT XB,
Has the JG33 engine number prefix meaning Ford GT Sedan,
As the JG66 was the prefix for 2 door coupe.

My question is=
will a 351 clevo n C6  fit into a beddy van without too much drama,??

Can Anyone shed any light on the fit?

Cheers marty

[ShaneJ]

I've obviously never done it but the cleveland is a fair bit bigger than the windsor and will probably cause you trouble with the steering column. Can you measure from valve cover (outside edge) to valve cover for me?

[Zeeman]

Length x width x height, in inches, without carb (approximately):

Ford 302:        29 x 24 x 27.5          Weight: 460 lbs 
351 Cleveland: 29 x 25.5 x 27.5        Weight: 550 lbs
351 Windsor:   29 x 25 x 29              Weight: 525 lbs
350 Chev:        28 x 26 x 27             Weight: 575 lbs

I've seen a couple of CF's with 351 Clevelands fitted, looked OK to me. The fit was no worse than any other small block motor.

[Marishka]

mine is 22.5 inch wide Rocker cover to rocker cover ,without exhurst manifolds.
and 23 inch long from back of block to front
 of block without water pump.

I will bolt the exhurst manifolds n water pump on tomorow n remeasure
Id say zeeman is right on ,
Looking at the width of pump n manifolds

I asked the mate i bought them off whats the difference between a C4 and C6?
Lol, his reply was he can lift a c4 but not a C6!
Hahaha, that tells me jack shit.  I said,   :-)