Rear axle seal leak into drum brake

[Marky]

after you have loosened and removed the 4 nuts that hold the axel in place

put the wheel cylinders back on and some of the  nuts back  on the wheel studs...and slide the wheel cylinder back n forth

should be enuff to loosen the axel...

[ben]

put the wheel cylinders back on and some of the  nuts back  on the wheel studs...and slide the wheel cylinder back n forth

i think marky means the brake drums.. put the brake drum on backward and slide back n forth..


they can be very stubborn, 

if that doesnt work get an old rim that you dont care about and bolt it to the wheel then hit that back of it with a sledge hammer. work your way around the wheel... and you should be able to get almost any axel out. lve only ever had 1 and the van was extremely rusty! i left it in there..

ben

[Marky]

yep..thats what i meant ben..lol

[SkippyThBushKangeroo]

quote from ben .... lve only ever had 1 and the van was extremely rusty! i left it in there..

ben


[/quote]   "WE" left it in benny       

[SkippyThBushKangeroo]

ben they have a seal on the side of the bearing as well, thats where the spring is

an uneasy expression has momentarily come over my usual cool, calm composure.... are u guys saying there should be a rubber, spring inserted ,oil seal between the axle backing plate and the bearing itself    from mem i thought the outer bearing side was a sealed bearing      or is that seal actually inserted inbetween tha inner an outer racers  in the bearing itself  

[Bas / NZ]

Gee, I'm lost here, just about to put mine back together, only seal I was aware of the the "O" ring on the bearing? Is any sealer needed between these flanges.

[ben]

quote from ben .... lve only ever had 1 and the van was extremely rusty! i left it in there..

ben

   "WE" left it in benny  Grin  Grin  Grin  Wink[/quote]

oh skip i forgot about that one! that makes only 2 times not being able to get them out!


bas in your 4th pic if you are looking at the bearing from the opposite direction you will notice there is a seal incorperated into the bearing itself to seal the bearing to the axel so the oil from the diff doesnt spew out.

cheers ben

[Bas / NZ]

Ok will put mine back together as is and see what happens, might leave the old shoes on just incase, easy to change later............. Cheers

[Cellardoor]

OK, the axle came out easy! The advice has been spot on!
What I found (pics attached);
- There seemed to be a fair bit of gunk, greasy dirt buildup, where the bearing sits. The gunk had small hard bits (metal, road gunk??). I'm not sure whether it was deposited there as I pulled the axle out, I don't think so as the seal was pretty clean.
- The 'inner' seal (at the arrowhead in pic1) looked fine.
- Bearing spun fine, not crunchy, quite smooth.

So, not knowing what to replace... is it common to;
- just replace the seal (arrowhead in pic 1)
- take axle to mechanic to replace the bearing and it's seal (pic2)

Also, should I do both axles whilst I have it up? The other is not leaking.
As always, appreciate the help, I'm enjoying this.... I'll move on to a number of easier jobs on the beddie whilst awaiting the next move.

cheers
Tom

[Bas / NZ]

Ok, what seal is that with the arrow to it, look at first pic above in my photos, that's all I have, there was no seal in there on 9' OR 10' diff  ? should I be worried..............