engineering certificate?

[Bryce]

Hi Guys
I'm hoping you guys can answer some questions some of my friends have raised about what does and doesn't require an engineering certificate when i go to get my blue slip in NSW.
if I replace the original seats (even if i use the original mounts) I need an engineering certificate.
if I put a fiberglass skin on a door or a complete fiberglass door I need an engineering certificate.
also if I change how a door opens, ie batwing side door i need an engineering certificate.
I've seen that people have done similar thing to this before so I figured that you guys would have a better idea if this is true then my friends

[Bedfordcrazy]

Hey Bryce.

1. No to the seats, so long as you use all the same mounting hardware and mounting points.
2. Yes if you do a fibreglass door
3. Yes deffinately if you change the way a door opens
4. NO to all of the above if you do the modifications after you get the blue slip, and then you have to hope you dont get pulled over at a random roadside inspection station. The best advice, ring an engineer and just check to see what they will and will not accept. At the end of the day its great to get one over the transport mob, but safety comes first.

george

[Bryce]

Thanks George
hopefully i can find someone that look the other way when doing my blue slip or I'm gonna have to get an certificate since I've gone to put everything back how it was.

[ben]

in vic we dont need to get engineers for any of those to my knowledge. unless the guys i use dont know the rules??

[rossie]

The seats are a touchie one, some say if it bolts the same ok, others wont the origanal seats for Roady

and as l say "recaro seat are standed in my 34 chev, thats how i got it"

Another way, is to put it on club reg, a scruitener will check the van and if every thing is solid and safe, you have your rego. NO RWC OR ENGINEER

[ShaneJ]

In NSW, yes to all the above.
While looking into engineering a modified Bedford for NSW we have recently found out with the new rules you need an engineering report for just about everything. I am told engineering is technically required when changing the size of your rims.

[ben]

do you need engineering to change the oil too?

[restoreid]

Hell yeah You need special permission to change your mind too

[Marishka]

well i for one believe engineers certs are a good thing.
others might disagree, but there are some bodgy people out there!


anything other than standard built vehicles could be bodgerly rebuilt with dangerous parts.
say you had fiberglass doors and had an accident and a bullbar of a 4x4 hit you in the drivers door?
how do you recon your legs, hip body etc would handle it?
realistically your life if you survived would be dramatically changed.
what do you recon your insurance company would just say?
id think they would wipe your insurance instantly when they found out you had un engineered doors or anything else?
and you would be left with nothing but hospital bills etc.

ask any police officer what its like to go to a fatal accident?
in my opinion cars built today are dangerous enough with how they are made of plastic and tin foil.
if you put fiberglass doors on your van at least have them stealed out inner frames and get them engineered.
 
or 1 day you or whoever you sell the remanufactured van to might just regret it?


p.s. ive seen some bodgy seats bolted into some vans and other cars,
bits of wood used as spacers, thin bolts that could rip out of floors etc.

[eddy]

good call bro,  be safe out there all .....