V6 Conversions and the guys that do a kit at Moree

[willo]

I am still getting the 202 to run correctly but the thing dies so much on a hill that it is embarrassing.  It's getting OK on the flat but revving very high (and downhill with a tailwind for that matter) but really slow up a hill.  This is with the 5.22 diff in it too.  I guess the 202 just wasn't meant to pull 3 tonne over some of the hills around here.
I thought about the 4 speed auto behind the 202 to overcome the high revving and this would have worked well. I even started to gather the bits and pieces.  Then i found out that I would need to cut the floor to fit the box.  Not doing that and still have something that dies on hills. The TH700 would be fine in a van but not a 3tonne motorhome.   A cut is a cut is a cut.  If I'm gonna cut the floor etc then it is for a V6 or V8.

Next phase begins...

I can get a good VT v6 and auto at the right price.  Spoke to Pat Gardiner at Moree about the conversion and he said he has done heaps of them and has developed a DIY kit to do the job. I wil be doing it myself if I do end up doing this transplant.

I know there is no substitute for cubic inches but I also reckon that a 3.8 V6 would be OK. 
Another advantage is that the V6 is close to the 202 in weight.  One more thing I have to consider what with a big fibreglass double bed over the cab already 
Has anyone:
a) got a V6 auto in a Beddie?
b) Still running the 5.22 diff? and if so tell me a bit about how it goes and fuel economy please.
c) had dealings with the mob at Moree and their products?  he sounded OK on the phone and gave me time and I felt he knew his stuff.

What do you reckon folks?  I'd love to hear your views and experiences please.

Give me some advice and if i do it i'll run a diary of my experiences for you to access in the future if you end up going down this path yourself.


Neil

[Bas / NZ]

Run a 3.8 v6 in my Black Beddie, Duel wheels and 5.2 standard rear end, you will need a Shift kit in the TH700 other wise the motor tends to rev a bit, gear change can be contolled by adjusting the TV cable, but shit kit is still a must. 5.2 will give more then enough low down power and due to the 4th gear (overdrive) your top end is ok aswell, mine does 140km + but to be honest a higher diff no taller than 3.5 would be better for fuel use. Bas

Yes, they say the VN - VP is the better one to use.

Link to George's Gallery on his V6 swap.

http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=21&g2_itemId=20163

[ben]

i think george has bought off that mob in moree.

[BusyKiwi]

My standard CF has the VN V6, I towed the custom van down to the van nationals last year. It towed it well until the end when the trans got hot and lost overdrive (it came back when it cooled down). Have been told since these trans's are not meant for towing.
Van gave no hint it was struggling as it cruised along nicely and didn't even feel much of the trailer. The engine ran cold towing it.
Not sure how much weight I was towing, custom van is all steel and the trailer alone was over 700kg

[Bas / NZ]

Yea, they say if used for towing, you need to beef them up, but David, you must of had a bit of weight behind the van, not your normal tow job.......

[BusyKiwi]

yeah but standard bedford is about 1200kg, Neil's camper is over double

[BusyKiwi]

I'm not running the tall gears in mine (only 3:45.1) but am thinking about getting a chip for it as it's not the cheapest thing to run

[Bas / NZ]

Ok, yes the factory setting of the chip is not the best I have been told worth a look into. Or LPG.....

[Bas / NZ]

yeah but standard bedford is about 1200kg, Neil's camper is over double

The only reason they overheat is because of the overlap of the shift, this is factory set and dose more damange to the auto than good, that's why a Shift kit is a must it cuts down this shift overlap and as a result the box runs at a much lower tempture... So a shift kit and a servo piston kit upgrade is the go.

[BusyKiwi]

any idea of price for the upgrade?