Engine transplants without cutting the floor

[Warren]

Paddy

any more info, like what the motors out off, how much effort to fit it, any floor/engine cover work required etc?

Warren   

[waikatostocky]

i will see what i can find out for you

paddy

[atk1]

Yeah thats a real common one here. Nissan LD28 diesel. I had 1 in my 1st beddy. Went awesome if you dont mind cruising. Never missed a beat & the last I heard it was still going sweet. I know that if you are replacing the original vauxhall engine then you do have to cut a little bit out of the floor and make the engine cover a little longer & wider on the drivers side. Im putting that motor in my Yellow van as we speak. I also want to put it in my LWB. 1 van at a time 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_L_engine#LD28

[ShaneJ]

Guys I have recently done a lot of research on fitting the ford engines to the ol Bedfords.

In short you will never fit an the 6 out of an AU or a BA because of the front sump. You need a rear sump on such a tall engine to clear the cross member.

If you a set on the twin cam 6 you will have to look at getting one from a 4x4 Territory.

If you are happy to settle on the SOHC 6 you will need to use a Pre AU engine and find a cortina sump and pickup to fit to the engine.

As yet I haven't done any detailed measuring on the inlet manifolds for either the twin or single cam engine. But from rough measurements you will have to have the engine sitting as low and as far to the drivers side as possible for the snail manifold to.

For the single cam 6 you could fit a carby manifold like one of these: http://www.aussiespeed.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=31
My research leads me to believe that even in standard form the for six performs better with the carb than it does with the factory EFI.

Another option for the single cam is using the EB manifold that put the inlet down and to the front just like the image attached here.

I hope this information is helpful.

[willo]

Guys I have recently done a lot of research on fitting the ford engines to the ol Bedfords.

In short you will never fit an the 6 out of an AU or a BA because of the front sump. You need a rear sump on such a tall engine to clear the cross member.

If you a set on the twin cam 6 you will have to look at getting one from a 4x4 Territory.

If you are happy to settle on the SOHC 6 you will need to use a Pre AU engine and find a cortina sump and pickup to fit to the engine.

As yet I haven't done any detailed measuring on the inlet manifolds for either the twin or single cam engine. But from rough measurements you will have to have the engine sitting as low and as far to the drivers side as possible for the snail manifold to.

For the single cam 6 you could fit a carby manifold like one of these: http://www.aussiespeed.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=31
My research leads me to believe that even in standard form the for six performs better with the carb than it does with the factory EFI.

Another option for the single cam is using the EB manifold that put the inlet down and to the front just like the image attached here.

I hope this information is helpful.

Shane, this is fantastic information.  Thank you for taking the time to give such great feedback.

Neil

[Poochimama]

Few months ago my poor brother had to take the crappy 186red motor out and thought he measured the 202blue as the same fit ,it wasNT..then the nite mare began,lol!
Chop the floor an inch or so ,He had to convert the carbi head & mould  the engine cover to  fit again.
Hes in a padded cell now and he hates his sister&her Beddy.
OK, truth isssss... i begged him to lose more of his sanity and fix another 463 things on it,his padded cell is waiting for him at the end!!!!
So far, thats the bit he hated HATED the most,the engine transplant,caused a domino effect,being why thats its nickname now..Domino 
Goodluck ya poor bugga,lol.

[wendyh]

ahhhh well u better not tell him we replaced our tired old 186 for a blue 202 motor...its fitted no prob!  as we used the 186 sump on the 202!  we did have to modify the engine cover...also a HQ water pump so it would fit nicely behind the radiator......

[ben]

i was just about to write that.

the sump is different between them.

the beddy holden motor have the holden EH sump on them so if you need a sump to suit the beddy look for an EH one (they are pretty rare thou im told)

cheers
ben

[BusyKiwi]

aren't the torana sumps like the EH ?

[aka5000]

Nice bit of info there ben, I always wondered about that.
No Busy it's not the same, my old 202 came out of my mates Lx Torana, swapped the sump and oil pick up from the 173 we pulled out. Mine was a fairly easy swap, just had to modify engine cover on the left, had a Holley carb on which just hit.

Alex