BUGA membership might qualify for Cheap Rego

[Worby876]

Gday,
I just got my rego renewal for my 76 CF Bedford van its now 0ver $800 a year.
The Wife isnt too happy given we only ever drive it about 6 times a year for
a run down the coast etc.

I was telling a work mate and he said why dont you join a club and get
Club rego?

Apparantly for vehiles 30 years older or more one can get special
discounted rego.

For show vehicles, street rods and other special use vehicles
see
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/c32ee6a7-60a1-4134-bb68-78482b08696d/special_interest_vehicle_scheme_guide.pdf
Any way I wanted to know if this idea was ever raised before? I reckon a
number of BUGA members only use their vehicles for show or as a hobby and
if we incorporated then members could benefit with regos of only ~$100 a
year.

what can we do to put this idea out to everyone?
Anyone interested???



Thanks

Ian Worby

[hotrod]

on clug rego ypu can only drive on club days (sanctioned days)
or within 15 k of home for test drive or to or from getting work done
Too restrictive no good for holidays

[Mark B]

I spoke to Ben about this sometime ago. It would be a good idea for a few people on BUGA, not everyone. I think we need to look into the requirements for the legalities of the club. i'm not sure BUGA as it currently stands would meet requirements. If your willing to look into it further i'd be happy to do what i can to help.

[Bedfordcrazy]

Hey Ian, mate i looked into this rego at qld transport just b4 xmas, yes it is a fraction of the cost, but you have to carry a log book, and you can only drive to service the van, or about 15ks from home unless you are going to a show. The other thing that stopped me was that, because of the plates, you risk being pulled over by every cop that sees you, and if you dont have your log book with you, or it is not filled out to the date, you risk having your rego cancelled + major fines. For me it was not worth the hassel, i would rather the high rego cost and the freedom to do what i want when i want.

george.

[hotrod]

found these re starting club

Source: http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/Registering+not-for-profit+or+charitable+organisations?openDocument

Incorporated association

Associations are incorporated under State and Territory Associations Incorporation legislation, which is not administered by ASIC, but by the various state authorities. An incorporated association is also a legal entity separate from its individual members that can hold property, sue and be sued. Incorporating an association in a State or Territory restricts the organisation to operating in its home jurisdiction. For example, an association incorporated under the Associations Incorporation Act of New South Wales may only carry on business in New South Wales.

The Associations Incorporation Acts provide a simple and more affordable means of creating a separate legal entity for small, community based groups with limited resources. The Associations Incorporation Acts impose less onerous conditions than the Corporations Act 2001 that governs the activities of companies.

As legislation differs in each state or territory, it is difficult to outline detailed requirements for incorporated associations, but basically an incorporated association may need to:

    * Have a committee, responsible for managing the association;
    * Have a public officer and notify any changes in that position;
    * Have a registered office in its state of incorporation;
    * Act in accordance with its objects and rules;
    * Hold an Annual General Meeting once every calendar year;
    * Lodge an Annual Statement every year;
    * Keep proper accounting records and, in some states prepare, have audited and lodge financial statements;
    * Keep minutes of all committee and general meetings;
    * Keep registers of members and all committee members;
    * Have a common seal.

without pointing out the obvious when people try to organise dates for outings on buga troubles are had organising a date months ahead so can't really see this happening

[Zeeman]

I meant to post re this. Was talking to my motorbike collector friend at the pub about the victorian permits.
They've just changed to allow any use, not just club related activities. From the vicroads website:

 From 1 February 2011, new conditions of use for club permit vehicles apply. 

Under the new conditions of use, permit holders are no longer restricted to club sanctioned activities when using their vehicles. Club Permit vehicles can be used at any time for any purpose other than for the carriage of goods or passengers for hire or reward.

A logbook is issued to permit holders to record the use of the vehicle over the permit period. A log book entry must be made each day that the vehicle is used (unless the vehicle is within 100 metres of the garaged address).

A logbook must be carried in the vehicle, or on the rider in the case of motorcycles, at all times the vehicle is in use.

Financial members of VicRoads’ approved clubs are able to apply for either a 45 or 90 day permit depending on how much use they expect to make of their vehicles over a 12 month period. If a person obtains a 45 day permit but later decides that this is not enough, another 45 day permit may be purchased later on. 

However, no-one will be able to obtain a permit to drive their vehicle for more than 90 days in each 12 month registration period.


Other features of the new scheme include:

A windscreen label will be issued to assist in identifying vehicles operating with a current permit;
VicRoads may suspend or cancel a permit if the permit holder fails to comply with the permit conditions or engages in conduct which threatens public safety or undermines the integrity of the permit scheme;
Clubs are required to sign an agreement with VicRoads that they meet certain obligations including that they notify VicRoads if they become aware or reasonably suspect a pattern of incorrect use of a logbook by a member. If this is not done, VicRoads will be able to revoke the club’s approval to be part of the scheme.
Club permit holders already on the scheme prior to 1 February 2011 have been issued with a free 90 day transitional logbook. The transitional logbook will be able to be used until the current permit expires. The logbook is valid until the permit expiry date and allows use up to a maximum of 90 days prior to the expiry date.

Permit holders operating with the transitional logbook are not issued with a windscreen label or log book certificate sticker until the current permit is renewed after 1 February 2011.   

Slim line club permit number plates will be made available upon commencement of production.




Applying for a club permit
To apply for a Club permit you will need to complete a Club Permit Application form together with:
 
written verification by the club secretary (or person authorised by VicRoads) that the applicant for the club permit is a member of the car club
in the case of a club historic vehicle that is not a street rod, a current certificate of roadworthiness or a letter from a scrutineer authorised by the club, stating that the vehicle is safe for use on the road
in the case an application made in respect of a street rod, that is a vehicle modified in excess of the level prescribed in the Vehicle Standards Information No.8. (VSI8) document [PDF, 1.06 MB, 6pp.], a Street Rod Inspection certificate issued by Jean - Christophe Bonneville (VASS No. 1042) of Bonneville Consulting, 19 Cantala Court, Endeavour Hills, Victoria 3802. Bonneville Consulting can be contacted on Tel: 0427212464.
Club Permit fee - refer to Permits (Club, Rally and Unregistered Vehicle Permits)

[Zeeman]

90 days is actually quite a lot when you think about it. You might not even have to fudge the logbook!
Gives you the option of having a showvan as well as a workhorse, which is what we all need, of course.

Even if the Bedford club doesn't exist.. yet.. there are plenty of general classic car clubs that will be happy to take your fee.
I can see the this scheme being pretty popular, and it should be a model for all states.

[Zeeman]

The 45 day permits are $64.50, 90 day are $114.40

[Worby876]

While this might be restrictive to some , who use their vehicles for work and don't want to keep a log book,
If I could be a member of a car club (Such as BUGA) and that entitled me to a annual rego of $120 and let me travel
to "show off my Vintage Vehicle" and display the Club colours so to speak then that would suit me fine.

If other states including QLD follow the VIC model then 90 days is heaps of time to enjoy my Beddie (and keep the Missus
from rolling her eyes every time the rego comes due  )

I've been on a number of not for profit registered associations....its doesn't have to be all consuming and all we need
is a basic core-um of elected members and if that gets say 10 or members cheap rego to enjoy and justify their hobby then
i think it could work.

I will do some more research from a QLD perspective...if there is no interest here I guess I could look for a general Classic
or Vintage Car club.

[vanner065]

Having way more than one van made me decide to put my XC van "Bad Company" on "SR"rego 2 years ago. Now of coarse it has changed to the new log book system. This saves me over $400 a year on a van i drove maybe ten times a year. 90 days allows you to drive your van for all weekends of the year except for about 6. Surely not everyone takes their van out every saturday and sunday of the year.

To qualify for this rego i had to become a member of the ASRF, Australian Street Rod Federation. What a bonus, for $100 every 2 years i get access to discounts and get a full colour magazine every couple of months with lots of interesting stuff in it, not to mention the permit.

It is a great idea if your rego is a rediculous price as i know some states are.

The BUGA community would not qualify for recognition to allow this scheme, so i recommend you look into joining the ASRF and also check the laws and regs of each state for the permits as they probably differ quite a lot.

James