Scam on ebay

[Worzel]

Sooooo.....
I have a van on ebay......
Got an email..........

first contact

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What is the present condition of this Item? Get back to me asap.

Ryan.

My reply.......

Hi Ryan,
condition is exactly as per the photos,
one CFL no roof, ground back to the gutters,
one separate roof needs work,
holes in floor, rear doors stuffed, bonnet stuffed.
comes with heater, fan, windscreen rubber
,no seats

his reply.....

Thanks for the response,i will take it for $1,500 including PayPal surcharges since i am interested in the immediate purchase for my Dad who just moved to Malaysia, where this is needed and i will be making use of a shipping company to have this picked up from you and have it delivered to him. Further arrangements will be made with you in regards to the pick up once i have paid you.

I would appreciate if you email me with more pictures (if available) too since i won't be be able to see this in person,what's the PayPal email to send funds to in order for me to pay you ASAP.

Ryan.

my reply.....


Hi Ryan,
I would take $1500,
paypal address is this one (hughreid01@gmail.com),
and i will pull the add.
There are 23 photos on the add, all can be enlarged by clicking on them.
If you want specific photos of any particular thing then let me know.
Roof is a separate item, almost the size of a bedford and will require
al least 4 people to place on top for transit.

hugh

then 3 emails
-from ryan......

I will be sending funds ASAP. Like i said before, i have someone (a shipping company to be precise) who will handle the pick up, i will be needing the exact location/address for the pick up, in order to make arrangements with my shipping company for the pick up. I will be adding their charges to the total amount i will be paying you, i would need you to help me transfer their charges to my shippers via western union once you get my payment confirmation.

Thanks,

Ryan.

-from "service@paypal.com.au"  (how did he make that show up as sender?)

 
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Dear Hugh Reid,

This email confirms that you have received an Instant payment of $2,100.00 AUD from Ryan Zawaski (ryan_zawaski@yahoo.com) via PayPal MERCHANDISE Payment Service.


View the "NOTE" of this pending transaction below
 

Payment Details
Auto Amount:       
   
$1,500.00 AUD
Transport Charges:
Taxes and Insurance:

Total:
      
   

$600.00 AUD

$0.00 AUD
 
$2,100.00 AUD
Transaction:       
   6X472815E1267414M
Quantity:       
   1
  Title:       
   CF BEDFORD VAN 35CWT DUAL WHEEL 1979

   
   
   

   
   
   

 
Transport Company: Petronas Tankers
Name:       Bavani Pavadai

Address: 73, Jalan PJS 9/18, Bandar Sunway
City: Petaling Jaya,
State: Selangor
Zip Code: 46150
Country: Malaysia.
   

Address Status:        Confirmed https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=p/pop/confirmed_address


NOTE: This is to confirm to you that the said amount has been successfully transferred by the Sender and been deducted from his Bank Account which is ready to be credited into your account, been that this Payment has been subjected to be a Payment for an MERCHANDISE purchased from you we reserve the right to make sure this transaction is safe and secured also to verify the legitimacy level on this transaction because of the high sum of funds involved.


The above sum has included the transport charges and taxes as we and the Transport Company quoted for the buyer (as per PayPal MERCHANDISE PAYMENT POLICY). You will receive a Message from the PayPal Customer Verification Department Shortly informing you on how to send the Transport fares and taxes to the transport company with the above details as soon as possible.



You may click here to contact the PayPal Customer Verification Department and Quote the Above Transaction ID for quick recognition of this transaction at links_safetycenter@consultant.com

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PayPal Email ID PP1468.

and another from Ryan........

Hello mate, I just completed the payment via PayPal,a total of $2,100 was sent, $1,500 for the merchandise and PayPal surcharges and the extra $550 for my shipper's charges and $50 for the western union fees, which you will be sending to the address below via western union at any Australia Post

Name: Bavani Pavadai
Address 73, Jalan PJS 9/18,Bandar Sunway,
City: Petaling Jaya,
State: Selangor
Zip Code: 46150,
Country: Malaysia.

My shipper would be coming around to your area to have the merchandise picked up once you have sent the shipping charges fee to them,as i need you to let me know what time you want them to come and where (your address & phone # you can be reached on)

I will be waiting to hear from you once the money has been sent to my shipper. Thanks for the business.

Ryan.

And my reply......
HaHaHa,
you had me for a minute,
YOU MUST BE f***ING DREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you get really sick SOON

regards
Hugh

[wendyh]

ahhh glad u were onto them Huge....these guys will try to scam us any way they can...when they mention they are buying for someone else and using a shipping company and then western union thats alarm bells rining red hot...had one scammer trying to get me to use to live master card numbers from the Uk on my eftpos machine ..played them along all day hahahah untill about 3 in the arvo told them in no polite terms to go get a real job n make their father proud!

[jimsvan]

yeh i got done one time with a scammer lost 1700 i also was selling a car on ebay and had the same situation as u hugh, but they sent a check that looked right and everything but when i went to western union to cash it the lady said this isnt a cheque its a scammer but seriously was a cheque tho had the amount the bank etc etc and signature but turned out as a scam. so yeh u have to be careful anytime someone mentions shippin there scammers

[BlackBedford]

G'day

A couple of months ago a mates girlfriend had her car listed in the local paper and was desperate to sell it. She fell for the scam "hook, line, and sinker". A bit of a surprise as she is normally pretty savvy.
She doesn't talk about it either so I wonder how many others have been caught.

[jimsvan]

im sure theres plentty people. but im more carefull now i tend to ask to view the item before i buy now but if im selling something and someone mentions the hole shipping i ignore and dont waste me time in replying

[aka5000]

there was one on ebay recently of an a9x torana for sale for $6900 knew it was a scam instantly at that price, so sent a couple emails:

Hello there and thanks for your interest,
The car is in perfect working condition, with no scratches, no rust or damage.It was always garaged and never been smoked in.The interior is very clean and the title is clear, no liens or loans.The price is $6,900 with shipping/handling included and it's not negotiable.The car is registered in Australia on my name and address but currently I am located in Rome, Italy because I just finished the divorce with my husband and i have moved here to my parents home.
Here you have more info:
Year:    1977
Make:    Holden
Model:    Torana
Kms:    154,000
Colour:    White
Engine:    8cyl
Transmission:    4speed manual

Here are some pics for you:
http://i55.tinypic.com/32zqkk6.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/mlkx9h.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/f2sabt.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/9szdxg.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/1z1xqps.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/2mwf6vp.jpg


Please let me know if you are interested and wish to explain shipping and payment process.
 
Thank you

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 2:35 AM, a k <akalikesnofx@hotmail.com> wrote:
hi yeah im interested when can i have a look at the car? also where abouts is it located?
alex

Hi and sorry for the delay in my reply, I am literally overwhelmed by the number of offers.
I would like to thank you for your interest in buying my car and also to clear some things first of all.
The car is located in sydney, New South Wales sealed and ready for shipping. I have a contract with eBay so this deal must go through them.
According with eBay you have 5 days from the time you receive the car to inspect it and decide if you want to keep it or not.
Here you have the terms and conditions of the sale:
I will need the following details from you: full name(and i need your real name because i will use it for the transfer of the title), full shipping address(where you want to receive the car).After I will receive the details from you, I will forward them to eBay. After they will process your info, they will send us both invoices. The invoice will send you the details on how to make a refundable payment.eBay will contact me and I will ship the car to you.
After you receive the car you will have 5 days to test, verify and do whatever you want with the car.The final decision to buy it or not will be after the 5 days with the car at your home.If you find the car unsatisfactory at the end of the 5 days inspection period, you have the option to return it to me at my expense(i am sure it's not the case)
The car will be sent with all the papers and documents required for registration(clear title,bills of sale,car's manual,2x keys,etc).This way, you will be able to inspect the vehicle before committing to buy it and I know that you have the money and you aren't just fooling around.

If you agree with my terms and conditions, please send me an email with your full name and full shipping address and phone number to start the transaction.
Cheers

my reply:
do you think we are all idiots!? eveyone whos knows anything about cars know that the a9x toranas are worth well over 100k and anyone going to buy such a car is going to want to see it in the fleash before forking out any cash.
so f*** off scammer!

it pissed me off but i had a laugh at the same time
alex

[aka5000]

shit just had another look at those photos. an sl in this condition is worth 15k + these days

alex

[jesus_is_alright]

Yeah i had a similar story whilst selling my barina,
Someone was going to buy it and ship it to Perth (from adelaide) and pay by paypal
Now, an 03 Barina is a common car, why would you bother importing one from interstate, sight unseen?

[jesus_is_alright]

Oh and also, ebay member Master_jawa from tasmania/broken hill is a time waster, and drewan1970 from SA is even worse, check his feedback
I'd advise anyone from BUGA selling anything on eBay to use caution if either of these guys bid on one of your items, especially Drewan,
both of thes guys bought  my old van, but never paid, collected or were even contactable

[BlackBedford]

Yeah i had a similar story whilst selling my barina,
Someone was going to buy it and ship it to Perth (from adelaide) and pay by paypal
Now, an 03 Barina is a common car, why would you bother importing one from interstate, sight unseen?

G'day

I sold my Mira on ebay and the bloke paid by Paypal so I was not happy. He then drove 12 hours to pick it up with his ute. Here is a picture after we loaded it. And yes he drove 12 hours home like that: