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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2010, 04:38:17 AM »
yea the diff makes alot of diffrance. i now get 80km @ 2000 rpm not 3000rpm & get 100km @ 2600 rpm with the 202 standard Bedford 4speed & cresta diff (3.45:1)

i'm happy for now.. but the clutch is very heavy so may have to look at somthing there..
Hi Ho Hi Ho it's off in the Beddy I Go......

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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2010, 03:53:07 PM »
go hydrolic clutch, will be easy as to depress then

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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2010, 09:15:26 PM »
Rocket

Are you NZ or AUS

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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2010, 04:28:39 AM »
Thanks marty.. any info on doing the clutch mod's?? and what i need.

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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2010, 06:37:32 AM »
rocket is in aus..

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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2010, 01:35:14 PM »
Thanks marty.. any info on doing the clutch mod's?? and what i need.

thanks

The heavy clutch issue can be adressed with out going to the hydrolic clutch path by ensuring that:

1: The firewall where the clutch cable goes through is not cracked and causing side loads on the cable, mine was cracked and i welded the crack and then a large flat washer over the area - no problems since.

2: The actuator arm pivot is adjusted so that the actuator arm is at least sqaure to the thrust  bearing (slightly over squre is better).

3: The actuator arm pins have enough surface area in contact with the thrust bearing to stop the arm from twisting and binding on the thrust bearings.


I did this over 4 years ago after putting up with a heavy clutch and breaking 3 cables. Now I still have a light clutch and an unbroken cable. Simple and cheap to fix once you know what to look for.

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« Last Edit: March 25, 2010, 02:02:55 PM by Warren »
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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2010, 01:44:10 PM »
Hi Warren...When i was cleaning down the the motor and gearbox of my little van ,i found out that the linkages that operate the clutch were all worn really bad. So i welded up the holes that had worn to a  oval shape and put in some washers to make it all tight again, but found out that the clutch now is now a bit stiff. I think that i will try ajusting it again. What do you think.? :-\
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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2010, 02:00:26 PM »
JohnO

Is your set up a leverage type of system ? on mine the clutch cable connects directly to the actuator arm, with an adjuster block in a lug on the bell housing.

I think the older vans had a sort of cable to a lever with mechanical advantage to the actuator.

I've only seen one in passing but they looked flimsy and prone to wear.

If you welded up the holes, what did you use to make them round ? did you re-drill them or just file them, if the holes are out of round they may cause binding, also if they are tight they may not allow correct rotation of the pins.

Using washers as shims should be alright, but once again may cause some binding if not enough clearance is left.

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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2010, 02:28:19 PM »
yeah LS120, im going 2 do the same conversion on my van soon.
are u runnin a 4speed australian g/box?
any other kind of box im unsure but it shouldnt be 2 hard to engineer up the brackets if ur mechanically minded.
if so u will need items out of an EH - hr holden (1964- 67 Australian model holden)

1/ master cylinder that bolts 2 the fire wall

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HOLDEN-EH-HR-DISC-BRAKE-CLUTCH-MASTER-CYLINDER-VH40_W0QQitemZ300406044269QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item45f198766d

2/ slave cylinder that bolts 2 the 3speed or 4 speed gearbox
3/ slave cylinder bracket.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/holden-clutch-slave-cylinder-eh-ej-hd-hr-4-spd-gearbox_W0QQitemZ390068629834QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5ad1e6f14a

4/ and the hydrolic pipeing made up 2 suit.

u will need 2 modify the beddy firewall 2 suit the master cylinder,
the holes are already cast into the alluminium bellhousing 2 suit the slave cylinder,
the hydrolic pipeing can be made by any brake or hydrolic shop.

once u have done this conversion ull wish ud done it years ago,lol....
cheers marty
« Last Edit: March 25, 2010, 02:44:26 PM by marty »

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Re: borg warner conversion price
« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2010, 02:52:23 PM »
I will have to take a pic so you can point me in the right direction buddy. I welded up the holes just enough to get them round, then filed them slowly to get them right . I also replaced the little hinge pins that connect the linkages together (that you then put a split pin through the end) ;)
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