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Offline jimsvan

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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 03:42:57 PM »
does the transit ones do u get full steer

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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2010, 06:25:46 PM »
Yes the Transit is a straight fit, and you lose about 2" of turning each way, but in the end this is BUGA all, contact him though his personal web site on him and his family, both racks fit the same from wat I have been told. Sorry I to have no photo's as mine is out at the moment so I can get a wof as it's been of the road for a while. I had brackets made up that bolt the onto the rack and the old Beford mounts, but once on for good will weld the mounts on to the Bedford.
Tire rods need to be cut down by 2" and change the link set up but very straight forward.
All in all avery good rack and fit, and cheap to buy!!!!!!

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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2010, 08:29:30 PM »
G'day

After trying the P76 and the Transit setups I consider the Transit a better setup. The loss of turning circle is noticeable but not a real problem. I anyone wants to try them call in, I'm only 5km out of Brocklehurst.

I was told recently that a Ford Territory power rack can be made to fit a CF.

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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 10:15:24 AM »
Hey Jim,

I have a Porsche steering rack in my CFL running a 350 Chev. Been in for about 5 years now I guess and is running fine. Here's a post from the old website about it that might help. I'll add the pics to the end.

As some of you already know, I have a 928 left hand drive Porsche steering rack fitted to my LWB, driven by a std 350 chev power steering pump. The pump is fitted in the stock position on the left hand side of the block. The LH drive unit is used to provide an easy fit to the CF as it needs to go in front of the cross member. Most car racks fit to the rear of the cross member. With the LH drive unit you just rotate it end for end and fit it up.

The Porsche also has a long throw, much like the CF rack but not quite the same length so you do loose a few mm in throw but it's hardly noticeable. With most car racks you loose heaps so your turning circle is way less than normal.

As you can see by the pics, the steering column shafts virtually line up but the shaft from the steering column to the rack needs to be modified slightly to fit, depending on what you use for a universal. You can also see the new mounting brackets made to mount the rack. These bolt to the std CF rack mounting plates welded to both sides of the cross member. We also added a couple of extra bolts in the verticle just to make sure. The tie rod end threads also need to be altered to fit the CF tie rod ends.









Hope this is of some help.

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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2010, 10:53:21 AM »
Looking at it again that Porsche unit is very tidy. Hmmmm.

Just a quick question regarding the steel lines running along the rack. Are they original or did you have new ones made up Garry? My power steering pump is mounted on the right-hand side so it would be nice to keep the lines on the same side and although I do have plenty of room to move having a mid-mount I would prefer to keep the lines as short is possible.

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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2010, 12:50:47 PM »
Hay Garry, guess the van doesen't look that tidy under there now. Spotted a Bedford CF Jumbo in front of me today, going by the chrome bolt on diff plate it was running a Cresta diff head, but by the power displayed on the corners at a guess it was running an 8, had the number plate TEX on it and Beach Hop on the window.;

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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2010, 04:46:56 PM »
The lines were new to suit the position of the pump. It's no sweat to make new ones to fit where ever your pump resides. If I was doing it again I'd use the same rack and custom make the 4 mounting bushes in nolethane, but it would also be worth looking at the Transit option, simply due to availability and cost. I do like the almost CF full lock that the Porsche gives though.

Baz, it's actually cleaner underneath now than these photos show. ;D I replaced the front bushes a couple of years ago and re painted the suspension at the same time. I've also just cleaned it all in prep for the Nationals. The beauty is that once the underside is cleaned up, it's so easy to keep clean. Takes about 4-5 hours once a year to keep the whole underside like this. Piece of cake.

That plate sound familiar. 
 

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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2010, 09:48:11 PM »
hey Gazza, just trying to set up my A/C,P/S and Alt mounts, (trying to find billett mounts for the lot) do you have any pics and do you run AC? as well... cheers Dano
ps did the splines match?
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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2010, 06:21:03 AM »
The lines were new to suit the position of the pump. It's no sweat to make new ones to fit where ever your pump resides. If I was doing it again I'd use the same rack and custom make the 4 mounting bushes in nolethane, but it would also be worth looking at the Transit option, simply due to availability and cost. I do like the almost CF full lock that the Porsche gives though.


Thanks Garry. I'm not too bothered about a couple of hundred dollars either way. The guy in Levin wanted roughly about $300 for his racks which doesn't sound unreasonable to me. A Transit one from Pick-A-Part will still be around the hundred dollar mark. Getting lines made up is no bother as is getting the linkages made up to attach the steering column. What I do like however is that the Porsche rack is a very tidy unit, you have used it for a few years so it has proven itself, you lose very little lock and your pictures are very comprehensive so whatever extra dollars are spent on the rack itself is saved in time having to work out how to put together the mounting brackets. I don't mind building and working things out from scratch but I see absolutely no point wasting time and money reinventing the wheel when there is already a proven and very workable solution already available.

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Re: power steer setup for a v8
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2010, 10:29:32 AM »
Hey Dano,

I'm not running an A/C unit. Not much room left in the engine compartment for that compressor and although Auckland is pretty humid, we're tough and can handle it. Haven't seen any billet mounts that would suit so made my own. The alternator brackets are the blue ones on the left side of the pics, made from alloy and painted. P/S pump is a modified stock Chev bracket to suit the room available. By splines I guess you mean on the steering shaft. If you look at the last pic you can see the stock CF shaft in blue. The bottom was machined off, where the round rubber insulator pad was, and you can see we necked it down slightly and re splined it to suit the new universal above the rack.

Hey Rogue,

Yeah this rack works well. The one thing I would do is as I said is change the 4 mounting bushed to nolethane. They need to be custom made. The std Porsche ones are rubber on a metal shell and if you have a P/S fluid leak it softens the rubber to a point where they start to disintergrate. As they fit in from the back, the rack has to come out to replace them and at $54 each it's painful. I have heard from some Porsche enthusiasts that they get rid of the mounting bushes and solid mount the rack with no problems. Could also be worth looking at.

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