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Re: Bedford lowering Solutions
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2018, 06:00:33 PM »
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Re: Bedford lowering Solutions
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2018, 08:29:19 PM »
So besides the spring itself whats stopping us lowering is the lack of camber adjustment. Could camber adjustment bolts be used?
I only have a slight idea how they work but the mechanically minded people I have spoken to all ask why don't I just do that?
I have also seen offset bushes used in 4x4 applications to change upper control arm length could this work?
At the moment mine is sitting on the flattend bumpstops (prevous owners hack) so I would like to be somwhere between that & stock.
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Re: Bedford lowering Solutions
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2018, 01:21:58 AM »
That's a bit too extreme...

There's no need for those extreme mods.

He has a IRS rear, you can get the rear low by just putting the diff over the leaf springs.

Like I mentioned before, in the front the best option is to use drop spindles/axles.

Camber adjustment bolts won't work. You would have to modify the wishbone mounting points or make custom tubular ones but with the chopped springs your always going to loose suspension travel making the ride horrible.


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Re: Bedford lowering Solutions
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2018, 07:49:28 PM »
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Folk, think very carefully before you dive into going down the dropped stub axle path. There are lots of additional costs that you will incur on top of the cost of the dropped spindles. The lower arms need to have the existing ball joint seats cut out and the new seats supplied with the kit re-positioned and welded in. You then need HQ lower ball joints and HQ wheel bearings. You also need machined spacers to fit standard Bedford steering arms to the Stubtech axles. I'm now battling with my disk setup as a standard HQ disk no longer clears the modified lower suspension arm so I am looking at going to a separate top hat style wheel hub with a separate disk that can be spaced to clear. My cert engineer specified TIG welding on all components which I had to get done by an engineering shop. I also needed to get all of the welding crack tested and a formal report for certification purposes. All up I've probably spent $2,000 and I still have the top hats and disks to buy.

I am aware of drop spindles and no im not going to "cut" springs Ive spoken with spring makers and they can be made to suit the application im just looking for ways to adjust the camber.
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Re: Bedford lowering Solutions
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2018, 02:34:35 PM »
It's certainly not cheap to setup. I'm most of the way through rebuilding my suspension setup, using Stubtech drop axles. Fitting the axles and modifying the lower arms wasn't too hard, however I was left with 3 degrees of negative camber when it was all done. To correct this, and enable a proper alignment, I decided to get tubular top a arms made, with adjustable ends. At least that way I can dial in the camber exactly.

The HQ disc setup on mine only just clears the lower A arm. I bought a complete new setup from Hoppers Stoppers.



« Last Edit: March 11, 2018, 02:50:52 PM by Zeeman »

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Re: Bedford lowering Solutions
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2018, 07:31:41 PM »
Hey ZeeMan ........ what steering rack is that ?

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Re: Bedford lowering Solutions
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2018, 08:25:56 PM »
Ford Transit power rack, with custom length ends rethreaded for bedford.

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Re: Bedford lowering Solutions
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2018, 04:33:03 PM »
My worry with the drop stubs the sub frame is now approx. 75mm closer to the road while you still have full suspension travel allowing the subframe to become even closer as the suspension cycles.
At ride height with drop stubs what is the clearance under the subframe?
With 14" wheels and no suspension (previous owner not me) there is 90mm under the subframe which drags on uneven dirt roads (my driveway).
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Re: Bedford lowering Solutions
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2018, 11:40:15 AM »
I forget the exact clearance, but it is adequate. Only because I'm running 255/60/15 tyres on front. No way could I run 14" wheels, would definitely not be enough ground clearance.

 

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