Can Oil sump be removed whith engine still in van

[Bedford Fever]

My friends dad Clffy whos an old old skool retired mechanic.
Has drilled into me to not over tighten bolts in certain areas.
Im a novice mechanic and leave all the finer ares to Cliffy even the tightening of a bolt.
Well until i get confident enough to do. Am learning slowly.

Cliify checked the bolts and they seem fine. The one he pulled wasnt snapped.
His theory is that the rubber gasket might have a tear or something

[MaTTe]

hey mate, Clify is absolutely right.. if you tighten a sump bolt to the point of snapping the bolt, you have gone WWWAAAAYYYY too far..
With sump and rocker bolts with new gaskets, we put gasket cement on one side of the gasket, then always tighten them so they grip but are loose. Let the cement set and the gasket to settle, then tighten them up the next day
you shouldnt need much torque at all to squash a gasket, feel the thread when you tighten it, when the resistance starts to take up stop tightening.. its easier to give it a bit more if it leaks, than it is to have to put on another gasket because you over tightened it.

Show us some photos of the leaks.

Quite often the leak will be under the timing cover, around the rear main, or thru one of the bolts, silicon on the bolt is usually a good fix, tho some silicons are better than others.. sikaflex obviously being the best.

One thing to check is that the sump isnt actually cracked around the bolts due to someone overtightening in the past. hairline fractures will leak, though you wont see them unless the sump is off..

Hope this helps
Matte

[petrolhead]

Sure it's not the harmonic ballencer seal?

[Bedford Fever]

For the sake of getting lucky, Cliffy cleaned up my poor silicone effort, cleaned it up and used permatex gasket maker after i used the wrong type . Couldnt find the sikaflex Matte mentioned .Where would you buy it ?..
Oh well after let it sit for 24 hours , took the Beddy for a test dive, what seemed a miracle was not with a little oil weeping out.
Your right about the balancer, Cliffy is going to check up on it aswell.
I will try and post some photos , camera on phone having dramas..

Thanks Frank

[Bedford Fever]

On closer examination the drip was located coming from under the harmonic balancer.
Dont know how l missed it , ( FOOL )
Cliffy remembered in his day of pulling Holdens apart that is a special Holden Red Harmonic balancer puller tool.
I rang around today and so far only Repco stock em, out of stock the moment, $50
Does anyone know of any other place that sells them hopefully cheaper,

Thanx Frank

[JOE RYAN]

Supercheap sell a universal puller for about $30. I bought one 20 years ago and still using it but only for light jobs, I have used it to remove my Harmonic balancer

Cheers

Joe

[MaTTe]

Hey mate, sikaflex is stocked at the hardware stores, however permatex and loctite branded products are very good too, and easier to apply as they aren't quite as 'sticky' when applying.

As Joe said, most auto shops should stock universal puller sets, you'll want 5/16 fine thread bolts to fit the harmonic balancer if the kit doesnt come with them supplied.

You'll also want some big sockets to belt the harmonic balancer back on, i cant remember the size we normally use but it'd be a 1&3/4 or something like that

Good luck

[Bedford Fever]

Thanx alot for all the help and imformation.
Just got home from aka500 alexs home from buying a beddy heater .Just meeting other Bedford people is always quite a pleasure.
As i found out first hand when my partner and l joined the earlier Bedford meet in Melbourne this year.
"From the dizzling heights,
To the spiralling lows,
To that creamy centre."" ( Homer Simpson)
I love reading the through threads of the many Bedford adventures being had out there.

"''This website breeds inspiration"' Cheers Frank

[ben]

hey frank! good to hear the beddy is cming along. gotta have another meet somestage warren and mezzmo are organising it yay:) cheers:)