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Technical => Miscellaneous Technical => Topic started by: CF-UK on November 15, 2017, 07:44:28 AM
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I've written a small program to try and work out the model and options by the data on the VIN and SPI plates on the CF. So far I've only been working with the UK data ( https://cf-uk.co.uk/vin/vin.php ) but I want to expand it. I'm after any info on the Aus VIN and SPI plates. For example, on the UK SPI plate, after the serial number we have DOM xxxxxx for 'Domestic' market. What have your plates got? I'm also trying to find out if your first section of the serial numbers correspond with similar UK regarding the chassis/body type. If any of you have info on the Australian CF VIN system I would love to see it :D
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this is everything I have for mine.
was 173 ci 6 cylinder with trimatic gearbox .... and had some 4.6 or something ratio diff in it.
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Thanks for the photos. I'm a bit confused that you have more than one ID number. 97370 GH 617349, 97370 HJ 617349 (both chassis number 617349) and 97370 85615 ?? The G & J should be two different years '77 & '78 but shouldn't be different. But why has the other plate got 97370 856165 on it?
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97370 is the model number, Sammy's VIN is GJ 617349. It's the number on the large body stamp, and on the manufacturers plate with the date of manufacture 6-78. I would have thought the number on the smaller plate, under the Body ID plate, should be 97370G J617349. Don't know why it has a H, because mine has a G, the same as the VIN (pics). The Maximum Gross Vehicle Weight plate has the Chassis No. stamp.
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It looks like there must be quite a difference in the UK / Australian VIN system. As you say the 97370 is the Model/body type. 97 being the code for the CF and the 370 the body type. It's strange to me that the VIN and the body number are different. UK used one number for both. I'm wondering if the difference with Sammys G & H could be when the parts were pressed (UK?) and then assembled (Aus?)
Both of your CFs are coming up as :-
2692 mm (106 inch) wheelbase, 2500 kg (2.46 ton) GVW, 2279cc (139cu in.) Vauxhall OHC petrol engine, 8/37 axle ratio
Obviously the engine is wrong and looking at the plates, so is the weight (extra weight of Holden engine/gearbox?). Are they both 106" / 2692mm vans?
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And the plates in NZ are different again
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And the plates in NZ are different again
Don't you just love standardisation :-\
I don't suppose you have any pictures of the NZ plates?
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Check this link for the Australian gmh manual index , you will find info about the plates and options
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hjkq8b4pbnmi72x/Index%20-%20CF%20GMH%20Parts%20Manual.pdf?dl=0
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/ac0h1a2yhn5uw46/CF%20Bedford%20Australian%20Supplementary%20Service%20Manual.pdf?dl=0
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Stuuuz
Those downloads are great. Looks like I can't combine UK and Aus VIN details in one prog as the same number means different things. For example in the UK 97770 would give you
3200 mm (126 inch) wheelbase, 3375 kg (3.32 ton) GVW, 2279cc (139cu in.) Vauxhall OHC petrol engine, 9/47 axle ratio
In Aus it's the same wheelbase van but with 2840cc engine, 5.22:1 axle
Looks like it'll have to be two separate programmes. Do you lot think it's worth me doing it and if I do would you want to host it?
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Here's mine I took just now at night..can do a close up if need be....
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The V.I.N. plate is the small plate in the drivers step, not the serial number as I thought. Thanks for the info stuuuz. The code seems to be D for '74, E - '75, F - '76, G - '77, H - '78, from my understanding of it.
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Sorry all, I've been tied up with other things. I'll try and get back onto the Aus version of the VIN readed ASAP
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CF-UK, do you have a copy of the GM-Holden published parts catalogue? Published 1978, for a memory.
regs,
AndrewOC
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Just saw the 'dropbox' files- I see what he calls 'manual' is the catalogue I was referring to ;)
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