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Technical => Electrics, Audio and Security => Topic started by: Kirk on August 01, 2008, 12:47:30 PM
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Hiya, well i want my van to be as secure as possible, and i recently saw a panel van with circular keys, and someone last night had locks with a star key, where can i find these?, how much? and would they fit in the bedford space where the locks go?
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Think like a burglar Kirk.
Smash a window for access , break the steering wheel to release the steering wheel club thingy.
smash the steering column cover and short out the ign switch ..........15 seconds?
Most people will pretend they never saw it, and walk past.
Now.....How to hinder and stop him/her/them from this point..........alarm, steering lock, immobiliser, other cunning devices....??
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Solex Locks are probably what your are talking about. http://solexlocks.co.uk/
You can get them from Autobarn, Supercheap etc
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just put a battery isolation switch in it or as danno will tell you do a craig and leave your blue healer in it they are usually smart enough to wait till the thief is inside then they go bullistic!! then again who would be stupid enough to break into my bedford when it was parked next to 12 others.....what an idiot ,you should have seen him bolt out when the door was opened my dog bolted after him for a bit more then about 15 other beddy owners were seen chasing him across an oval.LOL
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get yourself an electrick fence power pack and electrify your beddy . garenteed no dog will piss on your wheels more than once .
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can you actually do that strez?? i have dreamed of doing that forever!!! now i think about it its not dificult at all.. run an inverter.. work out how long battery life youd have hehe thats awsome!!!
nice story craig!!
if your beddy is that nice the crook will steal it!!!!! try deterents.. but i like just doing simple stuff hehe like leaving the linkages sloppy on the 4 speed.. so they get into first then when go to change its stuck in first.. they try to get nto second but all they get is grinding!! then they blow the motor and leave it in the middle of the road..
ben
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yep, still say I should have used the bowling ball :-* ;D
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yeah ben only problem is grounding the earth wire , bit hard to hamer a spike into the bitumen better if you park it on the grass .
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Kirk dont waste your money on the solex locks as Jeff said they just smash a window etc. Best of not leaving anything of value in sight. There is no way of securing any vehicle totally. I used to do breakdowns and there wasn't a car that couldn't be beaten.
There are ways to make it harder. Install shielding plates around the inner lock mechanisms and rods to make it harder to use "Slim Jims" and the like. Also use tapered door buttons not the great looking skulls as it makes it harder to get plastic tape onto them.
Alarms with flashing dash lights and steering locks are worthwhile as a deterrent but dont count on them.
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what about a recording that goes off screaming "help someone cant afford to buy a bedford so they are trying to steal mine!!!!"
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what about a recording that goes off screaming "help someone cant afford to buy a bedford so they are trying to steal mine!!!!"
PMSL :D
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sorry kirk what does PMSL stand for?? lol
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Peed My Self Laughing I'd guess ;)
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Pissed Myself Laughing to be exact.
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ok haha.. well this site is way more addictive than the old one.. gotta go outside and start gas cnversion on black beddy.. cant afford to drive on petrol. needs to be done by the weekend so better get cracken..
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get yourself an electrick fence power pack and electrify your beddy . garenteed no dog will piss on your wheels more than once .
My dad used a model T coil for that, had a piece of chain draging on the ground for the earth. Farm dogs never pissed on his wheels more than once and some seemed to know better that to do it at all.
The model T coil had a set of points on the end that vibrated like a buzzer.
It made sparks, big sparks. 1 1/2" --> 2" long sparks. Think of that next time you have a leak.
Auda
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Fit as many deterents as you can. I have solex locks ready to fit and they are pretty good. Back it up with a good burgler alarm and use a steering lock as well. Next step is a lockout switch on the LT lead so the engine turns over but can't fire, or a cutout switch on the battery cable so nothing works. Then a lockout valve on the fuel line so if they do get it going it'll only run on what's in the carb then die.
But having said all that at the end of the day if they want it they'll find a way of getting it. So the final step is to have good insurance cover.
Garry.
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also fit the widest tires you can find so they cant just winch it onto a car trailer.. or your average car trailer anyway..
ben
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also fit the widest tires you can find so they cant just winch it onto a car trailer.. or your average car trailer anyway..
ben
and air bag it so you can drop it to the ground and they can`t nock off those fat tyres
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nice idea strez..
this unstealable dream machine is starting to cost a few dollars..
ben
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Has anyone ever had their van stolen? Mine would stand out like doggs balls in Sydney and with the size and sluggish'ness of it they wouldn't get very far very quickly. ...
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yeh well i dont think theyd be able to steal mine now.. ive done some funky things with my shifter hehe.. im gunna write an article soon..
"how to convert your average trimatic into a Racing trimatic!!"
so hold tight!! cause your in for a ride..
ben
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Arrgggh Ben! What have you been up to kid? Where the F is Marty?
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I sent a message to Marty last night he says he's not coming to this site. It's a shame because he knows his stuff
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What's he got against this site?
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he was a little upset how the old site was pretty much shut down and no one was able to still use the old site..
i dont think it was really done wrongly im sure well see him soon thou ay..
but anyway i had this majic idea about making your van unstealable..
some people have a switch on thier fuel pump so that they only make it down the road a little bit and it runs out of fuel..
well i recon it would be much more dramatic if you put in an electric water pump and hid the switch for it.. so they get down the road and the flippen engine blows up on em hahahaha!!!
oh this ones not for your average joe blow on a budget.. but if ya just running a six meh it would teach the smart guy a lesson.. well thats the plan anyway.. hehe
ben
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this one was stolen and never recovered ,talk about standing out.
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x234/craigc327/magenta.jpg)
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eh it probably wasnt pink for very long.. or the crusher?? who knows..
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looked so cool when it was black n white had an image on the back johnny walker , hence the name Black label this van was featured in tv commercials for lous hi fi.
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i recon the roof scoop is the funniest thing ever..
ben
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i recon the roof scoop is the funniest thing ever..
ben
I thought they were the head of an AirCo unit
Warren
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yea they are
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word of warning ... heard on the street of current trend developing lately of bad boys and girls stealing cars and vans from carparks shopping centres and taking them straight to the crushers for $200 ...... ouch! >:(
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wow thats really bad!!!! surely the scrap metal people would look funny at people crushing a perfectly good vehicle??
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nah as they target 70's cars, old holdens like vk hq etc and older vans like beddies/transits, good old aussie models that can entered into easily and hot wired real quick, and driven straight to the crushers ..... ah no questions asked at the crushers cause once its in the crusher who cares? >:(
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actually when yu think about it, 5 cars at 5 different crushers will get you a $1000, not a bad days work for bunch of likely lads, cars gone and no evidence left, enough cash to buy an Xbox and a couple of slabs the trend is with teenagers at the mo (the prof guys prefer the big dollar cut and shunt jobs and move cars interstate) this trend requires a team effort and can be achieved locally by changing the driver of the stolen vehicle to the crushers and no questions asked >:( Lock that beddie boys!!!
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on second thoughts go further than locking you need to be able to disable the van, the best deterent is to make it as hard as you possibly can to steal your pride and joy, I have seen a product that is by far the best anti theft device it locks the brake pedal to the steering wheel, if I remember I will bring a sample to the Vic get together I think costs about $30 but don't hold me to that cause its only available privately from an ex Vic copper, I watched some bad boys give it a go and they failed and gave up, these same bad boys removed a steering lock in 30 seconds. We've all locked our keys in the beddie and used the clothes hanger to open the door yeah? unless you have an improved door locking system it is real easy to open a beddie, whip the casing off the steering column and hello mr ignition wires ! quick cross wiring and bye bye my beddie :'( oh I attended a youth program that assists car stealing bad boys and was there when they were asked to prove their skills and they couldn't remove the brake steering wheel lock. Most cars are stolen during the day from shopping centres cause its mum who usually drives and we all know the females like to linger in shopping centres, train stations is another place and oh if you have a gps, take it with you and hide the cradle, better still remove the suction marks from the windscreen cause that is a dead give away that there is a gps in the van, pop rivet those number paltes on too boys cause theft of gps and number plates have risen 319% in Vic ........ ;)
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sorry one more thing, the anti theft number plate screws? .... don't bother, they are sold at Bunnings and auto stores but guess what ... so too are the screw driver bits to remove them, young blokes carry screwdrivers with the bits attached and steal number plates from train stations and shopping centres, they sell the number plates where ever to those that don't want to pay for petrol or road tolls and then you get the phone call that you stole some petrol and have racked up a few speeding and parking tickets, how do I know .... cause it happened to me, now I pop rivet the plates on!! (confession time .... only done the beddie and not the missuss car .... orh) ::)
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what about a recording that goes off screaming "help someone cant afford to buy a bedford so they are trying to steal mine!!!!"
ROFLMAO,
i got a chain and lock that locks my 4 speed shift in reverse, another that locks my bonnet to the passangers engine mount, a steering wheel clublock, a home made alarm that uses =a relay, horn, 2 switches , total cost = next to nothing.
i stumbled on the idea when i was bored 1 night, it works great, it just doesent stop till the owner resets it.
i will work out a timer for it 1 day.
i leave my van unlocked everywhere its in view, hanging for a would be theif to open the door, hasnt happened yet but i cant wait, lol. i might rig something up that sprays dishwashing liquid into their eyes for an extra laugh.
prob with that add-on would be sometimes i forget the alarm is on.
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that dish washing trick would be great of you wear glasses, you would never have to turn it off, each time you opened the door you would get a free glasses wash ::)
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lol, i like the ellectric thing to stop dogs p#@#ng on the wheels,
haha. exelent stuff. love 2 see the dogs reaction, priceless . :o yipeyipeyipe
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have you ever widdled on an electric fence? id like to see your reation too
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;D :D he he ha ha,lol
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hahaha
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i got electricuted once delivering horse feed,it was no fun believe me.....
I got this sent to me in an email, not exactly sure where it was from originally.
A farmer put an elec fence on his property cosz his lambs were going missing.
this got caught in it, some greenies came and cut the fence and let it go,
then went and told the farmer expecting a pat on the head.
the farmer chased them down the road wanting to kill the greenies,
the snake was the 1 eating the lambs, lol
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll265/marty23121961/GetAttachment.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll265/marty23121961/2.jpg)
it couldnt get outa the fence coz it kept getting zapped, and had just eaten another lamb,
marty
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zap, bump, ouch. i must admit im a greenie 2. i woulda got it out without killing it and took it to a rainforrest area n let it go.
problem is its big enough to eat a small child.
but it has a right to live 2. if we go around killing everything thats a threat we will never stop killing things.
i dont even kill redbelly or brown snakes here on the farm, i just catch them and go for an hours drive (to let it go)in the beddy and hope the lid dont come off the bucket while its in the van, hehe,
i dont believe in killing for fun or no good reason.(but thats just me) each to their own.
marty
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geez marty did you have to go all the way to the Amazon to deliver that horse feed, cause that ain't no redbelly/brown snake bro , thats the biggest snake I ever seen !!!!!!!!
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lol, i need 2 go back and edit that . it wasnt the same farm.
lol, fixed it up.
marty
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That bloody snake eating all of the poor farmers lambs...
They should have killed the bastard! Farmers do it tough while snakee eats lambs...
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Holy crap!!!!! Imagine waking up in the morn and finding that bugger having a drink outta ya toilet bowl? :o I'd be peed at the hippies too. The farmer coulda built a home for the monster, charged admission and atleast made back the money he'd lost on his lambs before lettin it go in Canberra. ;)
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also fit the widest tires you can find so they cant just winch it onto a car trailer.. or your average car trailer anyway..
ben
and air bag it so you can drop it to the ground and they can`t nock off those fat tyres
Is this what you mean re air bag? ex youtube
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7rywt2Fmmhk (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7rywt2Fmmhk)
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Worzel,
That is quality! Has anyone ever airbagged a beddy? Must have been done before!
Jock