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Technical => Exteriors and Interiors => Topic started by: Truck on January 31, 2015, 05:39:49 PM
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Hi Buga's,
Have come across Lizard Skin in Hot Rod mag for insulating and sound deadening and just wondering if anybody has used and if so what there thoughts are.
http://www.lizardskin.com/?utm_expid=46014116-0.nW9TytUKRtqwt6munADzvA.0&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lizardskin.com%2Flizardskin-advantage.html
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This intrigues me, after a recent post re; ceramic coatings and headers etc , I thought that the ceramic magic was the ducks nuts, but after reading Matte's post, finding that the coating actually retained the heat, is, that if it's for the Beddie floors (exhaust heat) it will be ok for ten minutes or until it's up to temp then retain the heat defeating the purpose....I just fitted an heat shield between the extractors and floor (creating a second floor with void) and heat foam to the engine cover and it has made the world of difference... I will look further at this product for you Truck, and let you know, I also use a oil based heat / sound deadener that is very good ( and more than likely the same product) with an special applicator (it's the key) but MAN, it is extermely messy and gets everywhere, requiring a lot of masking / prep work. But well worth it. And for the record...FORGET THE BRUSH APPLICATION IDEA !!! BAD BAD BAD IDEA!....lol
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Good stuff Dano and some very good points with regards to heat retention. A little late to do on the Beddy now but thought I may give it a go on engine cover prior to applying dynamat to eliminate heat. Look forward to any further info you come across.
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im installing dynamat at the moment on the floor , new engine cover will do every where eventually
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Dynamat is good for noise suppression, I then used a cloth under felt for further heat ins, but looking at dynamats other foam based products and or a high density thin foam similar Martial arts mats...will get back to this a bit later as have family crashing over at the mo...
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Carpet underlay works good, :)
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Hi there, I don't have any experience with heat or sound but I have done some research recently and found that Dynamat have a full range for all areas and that it is not just one product to do the entire job. Dynamat have their Dynamat Extreme as the base product and then Dynaliner on top of that for the cabin, floor, doors, roof. They then recommend Hoodliner for under the bonnet and DynaPad as the noise barrier. They have a PDF on their website for each product which I found very logical. John
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I priced some of the dyna deck carpet $1500 is a bit much I think but will be fitting dyna mat and the underlay carnt remember what its called
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I'll post some pics of different Dynamats tomorrow for you all
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here's a few...
The grey aluminium lined is what I used on the inside of the engine cover, to repel heat and oils etc, $65.00 got me a lineal metre (1370mm) Good to work with quite soft/pliable.
Next a polyeurethane I think, high density, not too pliable, brilliant heat insulator, melts easily with welders slag /soildering iron, water resistant....I will use this on the floor for heat, next time I think, as I still want the firm feel, we also use this to line boat hulls /cabins before we trim them, also a floatation assistance should thing go pear shape.... all foams are expensive and can be cut to the thickness you want. Martial Arts mats..
The pink is a house insulation I "aquired" I've used this on the inside of the roofs before the rooflinings go in. It also is Aluminium lined, and med density.
A HUGE tip... dont buy from Clarke Rubber as they are rapists ... do your research, find an upholsterer, and ask where he gets his foam from etc they are around, he might want to sell it too but compare prices as I still think he will be way cheaper.
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The white is an awesome foam from the USA, it is sandable and we have been unable to find it here in Aust. but i have seen a glimps of it when the father in law re-lined his pool, so I'm hoping that the pool industry might be able to enlighten me when I get around to chasing that one up.This one we use for dash boards tops of door trims etc, where you dont want too much thickness but some dense padding.
the next is "rebond" a rebonded foam of varying densities but comes in three density levels, generally use in the domestic upholstery game for antiques, deep buttoning etc... a really solid foam base then a softer foam added to the top for comfort. But expensive and where thickness is required.
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One thing to consider... I'm leading to believe the glue used called "contact" also known by the bear brand is acidic, with a solvent base....sooo when you spray it all over your pride and joys roof, the solvent breaks down the paint sealer and then rusts the metal underneath.Especially not good with the poor steel the Beddie's are made with, I would recomend a liquid nails or silastic adhesive, but again when the time permits I'll get the confirmation on this.Just for the record, this is only my opinion and yet to be confirmed.
Here's a door trim I'm doing at the moment, note the rust UNDER the foam....several Beddie's roofs have looked liked this when I have stripped them..
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Dano
The white stuff in pools is a product called Core - mat and is used in conjunction with resin. it drinks about 800gm/m2/mm thickness and is sandwiched between 2 layers of glass, Quite easy to work with as it breaks down when it comes into contact with styrene,That smelly stuff in the resin, over working it results in it becoming"snotty"
Give me a shout when you're ready to play with it and I'll point you in the right direction.