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Technical => Miscellaneous Technical => Topic started by: Clance on December 30, 2008, 08:02:58 AM
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Hi Guys n Gals, well it's been a while since I've posted a question but now after having driven the Mover from Tassie to Mackay and settled in, I have finally done a shake down on what broke and what didn't on the trip up! I'm going to write an article outlining the whole trip for you all as there are quite a few odd things that happened. Anyway back to the problem of the moment!
After crawling around under the mover for about an hour I made it up to the front end only to notice my Shockies! I but brand new HD Munroe GT gassies in before I left but after the scrutineering I found one has busted the bottom pin clean off and the other has stripped all the thread of and is virtually free floating!!!!
So my questions are
a:- has this happend to anyone else?
b:- what could be the problem
c:- what sort of front shocks are you all running?
p.s. I am running a 350 chev & T400.
Cheers,
Clance ??? ???
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the bottom shock mounts can be a pain in the rear.
I had one shock snap because it had been put in wrong, and the brackets wear out eventually.
" I found one has busted the bottom pin clean off and the other has stripped all the thread of and is virtually free floating!!!! "
I take it that it is the shocks not the brackets that are stuffed which is a bit weird but i'd remove the bottom brackets and inspect them,
they are made to allow a bit of movement, and if reassembled wrong then the bottom of the shock is stressed.
the brackets can be reconditioned if the studs have snapped off buy drilling the stud out and tack welding a similar bolt in place.
Basically don't allow anybody else to fix your bedford unless you know that they are not an idiot ;D
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hey Clance, how far is the drive from Melbourne to MacKay and how long did it take you, I am heading that way next week looking like leaving Melb on Wednesday to pick up a 21 ft tandem caravan, coming up in the Vs stationwagon so may bump into you if your at one of the local caravan parks ;)
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G'day
Years ago somebody was making a steel ring with two threads cut into it. The ring was welded into the bottom wishbone and a HQ style shock could be installed. HQ shocks have a round bottom connector.
The main problem was that the shock didn't fit through the ring so the front end had to be dismantled to install it.
I had a ring given to me but I have lost it. I plan on finding it and probably will.
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Hi Clance....Funny you should post this topic because, i found that the drivers side shock has lost the nut that holds it into the bottom bracket. So tomorrow i will have to jackup the truck and inspect it.While i have the shock out i will see if i can get some part numbers off it for you.
Cheers....Johnno ;D
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Hi guys, thanks. I put the front end back together myself and consulted the manual so I reckon it all went together correctly. I also reconditioned the bottom brackets so miss assembly isn't the prob.
I just have a funny feeking that the shocks aren't long enough or something even thou they are the correct part number Munroe GT 15-0162 to suit bedford! I'm getting new ones under warranty and will see what happens.
Eddy, I'd allow at least 3 days 1 to SYD, 1 to Bris and 1 to Mackay, I'm parked up at a mates shed about 18ks from mackay near the beach. Give me a call on 0413 621 222 and come to the local pub for a feed.
johnno, i'm looking forward to finding out what you suss out with you front shock! let us all know please.
Cheers and Happy new year,
Clance
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yeh ive gone through about 4 or 5 lower shocker mounts.. i have all the broken ones in a pile to fix up one day lol.
ive also seen big washers used the right size of course to replace the shocker mounts.. seemed to work ok.. probably not quite as good thou.. was a heck of a lot easier to change shockers thou!
ben
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Hi Clance....Yep the bottom pin on the front shock has sheared off. But there is just enough of the pin to weld on another bolt onto the end of it. I have taken some picks of it and will post them up hopefully tomorrow. The brand of shockie is exactly the same as yours Clance.
cheers.....Johnno
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Hey johnno careful welding ya shocky it might be a gas unit and would be like welding a grenade :o Cheers neil
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Thanks for the heads up Neil....I will be careful... ;D cheers...johnno
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Well, i tried to weld a new pin onto my shockie but was unsuccessful. My main concern was the gas going Boom! :o .So i scrounged an old shock from a front end that i got from Merlin and fitted that just to get me by. Cheers...Johnno ;D
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1 buggered shockie :(
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa315/johnabbott_2007/mytruck001-2.jpg)
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John
If you are worried about heat getting into th shocky the try bronze welding the new stud in place, and wrap the shock in a wet rag to act as a heat sink and remove execess heat.
Bronze welding is nearly as strong, and requires less heat to do.
Just a thought
Warren
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I wouldn't want to be a wowser, and maybe i'm just getting old, but i wouldn't be heating that up with a torch unlees i fully understood the possible consequences of heating pressurized vessels, and explosions and first aid and guide dogs and stuff like that 8)
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I'm with Worzel. For the cost of 1 shocker I don't think it's worth the risk.
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Yep ....I agree guys ,Thats the last time i am going to try that.! cheers..Johnno ;)
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what price are you fellas paying for a pair of front shockers?
i just got quoted $181.00 a pair at one place and $139.00 a pair at another?
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pedders GSR 9078 - $254 PAIR :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
(he reckons they are good ;) )
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theyd wanna be damn good!! thats half as much as i paid for my van im driving!
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Late reply to my post but at least it's a reply!
I bought another set of the Munroes for $169.00 and sent the old broken pair back for a warranty claim,
I rang Munro about 3 days after sending them and had a chat to the claims department about what the thought went wrong wth the shockies.
They answered that there was an assembly problem on the production line for about 8 months and all the shockies that were made at that time had problems with the welds around the pins! They had done a recall but obviously some may have been missed!! I had one of the sets that had been missed! They were very forthcoming and paid my warranty claim without a problem.
So I have to say THANKS MUNRO for the great after sales service.
Don't get that much any more.
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Nice score Clance ;D
Craig put me on to a set of Koni adjustables years ago , but of coarse it was the day AFTER I had just replaced a set (onya buddy).......then it came off the road, WAAAAYYYYY BAAACCKKK when I was a wee tacker :'( wont be long now. (just keep swimming........... just keep swimming ........just keep swimming)
OH BTW does anyone know of any $ or part #'s for these?
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Hi there, I know it's an old subject but!!! I'm back in the market for new front shocks, years ago I tried all the Monroe gas ect and found that they were lucky to last six months. So i forked out $200 each for Koni gas adjustables, they were awsome but that was over ten years ago now(and I give my van hell,Nthern NSW death roads)). Anyway has anybody found a cheaper brand that they swear by, or should I (even thou I can't afford them) go with what I know. By the way the part number for the Koni's are (80-2119) at $190.00 each shock(autobarn). :-\
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ive seen others modifyed to fit the beddy front end. cant say i know what frm thou sorry..
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Oh well seems like nobody had any better idea's on the front shocks so I orderd the Koni's $189.oo each. Got a pleasant surprise with the lower control arm bushes from Pedders tho $104.00 the set, (was expecting $150) First time in over 20years I've changes lower control bushes thanx to spare beddy's. New brake discs $50.00 each, Upper ball joints $22.00 each, upper control bushes$40set , $80 on steering rack, $60 for 2 new flex brake lines. And it was only a few weeks ago I was thinkin of giving up on her, then I seen Marky of Mullum's add(beddy bits to go) and he had all i needed to rekindle the passion, so thanx marky( and BUGGA) i can now stop,steer,wind down windows,change gears,demist wind screen and sleep in a dry bed all for three days of burning the crap out myself welding(barter system's are alive and well on the north coast, parts for labour).So now I'v got all the interior and outer body to keep me busy for a long time,maybe another 20 years!. ;)
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yeh marky said he was real happy with the deal ay!!!
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¨Upper ball joints $22.00 each¨ :o :o :o :o
who from?
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Hi there, I know it's an old subject but!!! I'm back in the market for new front shocks, years ago I tried all the Monroe gas ect and found that they were lucky to last six months. So i forked out $200 each for Koni gas adjustables, they were awsome but that was over ten years ago now(and I give my van hell,Nthern NSW death roads)). Anyway has anybody found a cheaper brand that they swear by, or should I (even thou I can't afford them) go with what I know. By the way the part number for the Koni's are (80-2119) at $190.00 each shock(autobarn). :-\
cheers danvanman, been away for two weeks , i think these are a must have yay
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id say from marky worzel.
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Just did shock change ,the ones I took out seemed fine, thought I wasted time and money(one monreo gas,one Koni) but the differance now is chalk and cheese. Love them new Koni's. Sorry Worzel I converted to HQ upper ball joints donkeys years ago, samer with upper control arm rubbers. I got the Lower control arm rubbers but they didn't come with the outer steel caseing witch you seem to have to destroy to get the old ones out, so I've put that of till after winter. Well i'm ready for the drive down to Thredbo for the season tomorro,if anyone here goes skiing Thredbo drop in and ask for Dan at the Alpine Hotel Bistro bar.
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would it be much more difficult to conver the lower control arms to hq as well bro?
cheers
ben
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It would ben but i was in rush and thought it would be strait forward, silly me, nothing on a beddy is strait forward. ::) ;)