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Technical => Exteriors and Interiors => Topic started by: erics8 on October 02, 2013, 04:31:28 AM

Title: underseal and wof
Post by: erics8 on October 02, 2013, 04:31:28 AM
Hey guys, finally finished painting my underside and engine bay (thank god for that!) And was thinking of undersealing my wheel arches, however I remember many years ago getting grief from the testing station for having undersealed my rear arches and beaver panel on my austin marina van, anyone have any ideas as to the legitness of undersealing? Cheers
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: Bas / NZ on October 02, 2013, 05:18:18 AM
Go tell the guy that TOLD YOU THAT TO GO, well this is a public forum, but you know what I mean... ;D
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: BusyKiwi on October 02, 2013, 06:20:36 AM
They only moan if there is rust under it, ie the underseal and bog or whatever is covering it and they know it's there but can't see it.
The testing station can look but can't touch so to speak, meaning they are not allowed to poke or scrape anything.

Go for it, but seal up anything you want sealed up, prime and put some paint on before you underseal, so if a stone chips the underseal you'll still have some protection under. no paint and water can travel under the underseal and rust out the metal.
if you want to paint the underseal wait a week or so or it will shrink
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: erics8 on October 02, 2013, 07:12:17 AM
Cheers guys, that's what I'm worried about busy, being a bedford I figure they'll assume there's rust everywhere! Might just do it and then drive around in the dust so it looks ancient hehe
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: Rogue Trooper on October 03, 2013, 05:53:18 AM
So while we're on this is there a good underseal product you'd recommend? I've been (very) slowly painting bits underneath and want to start undersealing certain areas so when I bolt things like the rear part of the exhaust system and the fuel tank up soon I don't have to pull them out again to paint.
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: BusyKiwi on October 03, 2013, 07:15:46 AM
They're pretty much the same these days. Just remember to mix well and thin with kerosene for desired texture - test spray first. Stick to the same brand as well, some are chunkier than others and if you swap half way through you'll see the difference

With underseal less can be more, don't load it up, as like rust proof it can crack and the thicker it is the easier it is for stones to chip it.

For the rear quarters (outside behind rear wheel arches), front valance or anywhere outside there is a product called stone guard or stone chip that is a real nice thin texture and sticks like poop to a poopie thing ;)
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: erics8 on October 03, 2013, 08:41:56 AM
Good run down there busy, cheers  :) I'll have a shop around this weekend I think
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: Rogue Trooper on October 03, 2013, 10:00:41 AM
Ta very much. I'm brushing it on otherwise it'll end up over everything so I'll test-brush it instead.
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: BusyKiwi on October 03, 2013, 10:32:37 AM
if you're brushing don't thin down to much or you'll make a bigger mess - brushing it actually very messy, you'll get more on you lol so wear long sleeves, gloves, glasses and a hat at minimum, balaclava would be ideal especially if your laying under the van to do it - speaking from experience lol

If you don't have a proper underseal gun, you can use those degreaser guns, just take off the nozzle or better yet cut the pipe down

If you do use a gun and it gets blocked, place your finger or rag over the end and blast to blow it back in the container, but be warned, only a very short blast or the container can pressurize and go pop - again from experience lol

You can also warm up the tin of underseal before you apply it, fill the sink up with hot water and place the container in the water (with top off) for a few minutes to warm it up, it'll go on smoother.
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: Bas / NZ on October 03, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
I used it from a can, only because the stuff is so good, 7 cans to do a jumbo, ok this was taken before the reco auto and new driveshaft went in, all clean under there now..

(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=31617&g2_serialNumber=2)

(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae41/Bas-NZ/IMG_0627.jpg)
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: Sammy on October 03, 2013, 01:45:49 PM
why don't you just paint it, get it checked then put the underseal on it ?
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: erics8 on October 04, 2013, 07:13:55 AM
Its already wof'ed so It wouldn't really matter I suppose, that spraycan stuff looks good!
Title: Re: underseal and wof
Post by: Sundownernz on October 07, 2013, 09:52:45 AM
I used 3M underseal that came in a 4 litre can many years ago. Awesome product. Use it on my old van and this one, by brush, with no issues. I only put it under the wheel arches though after paint them first. Can't see the point in undersealing the whole van as the stuff does attract dust and dirt which just makes it a pain to keep clean if you're showing your van.
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