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Title: name that bumper
Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 17, 2012, 11:19:23 AM
hi groovers, anyone know what make an model this rear bumper is off  ???  ???  ???.... reckon it would look  coooool bananas hangin off the back of a CF but!  ;)
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 17, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
view of the top too...
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Post by: Brendeni on October 17, 2012, 12:32:03 PM
Could it be a Valiant?
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 17, 2012, 03:41:10 PM
 not sure.... does have that chrysler look to it though..... come on there must be a budding bumper boffin out there somewhere...  ;D
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Post by: Merlin on October 18, 2012, 09:03:38 AM
looks like a 68-69 toyota crown unit to me
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 18, 2012, 11:29:09 AM
checked out images, some crowns seemed to have a blinker unit on front the bumper, but have not seen any pics of any on back bumper  ???  ??? only tail lens setups.... do you know if there was a model with blinker incorporated rear bumper merlin  ???  ???
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Post by: VanWolf on October 18, 2012, 01:38:18 PM
to me it looks like a 1967 CHRYSLER VALIANT VC SAFARI.

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/chrysler-valiant-1967-13489095?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=1&eapi=2&__N=1246+1247+1252+1282+4294966897+4294966716+1216&num=15&silo=Stock&sort=default (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/chrysler-valiant-1967-13489095?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=1&eapi=2&__N=1246+1247+1252+1282+4294966897+4294966716+1216&num=15&silo=Stock&sort=default)

Skip, what about a HQ rear, they had both brake and indicator assembly.

Mike
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Post by: tiwaz_nz on October 18, 2012, 07:06:10 PM
thats the one ..... solved  :o :o :o
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 19, 2012, 10:26:16 AM
cheers vanwolf  ;)   had a feeling it was chrysler...... have a HQ one on at mo, looks good,  but this looks biggerer n beefierer......  ;D  ;D  ;D will have to see if the dents can be coerced back into place first
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Post by: Dano on October 19, 2012, 11:05:27 AM
hey skip, I reckon that HQ would be worth a bit too, more than the Chrysler,XB,XC are also a good fit(and beefier).   Can you pls take some pics of your rear door hinges, and mounts, would like to change mine when I get a chance. Cheers Dano
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 22, 2012, 08:41:47 AM
sorted  ;)... heres a couple of the inside ( including strut mount ) an top hinge outside.. let me know if you want any other shots dano... cheers  ;D  outside top 
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 22, 2012, 08:43:51 AM
hmmm only 1 came up  ???  ??? try again..       inside top..
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 22, 2012, 08:48:31 AM
ok , must be a "bastards incorperated" product.... single load it is..... strut mount passenger side
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 22, 2012, 08:52:12 AM
 ...open sesame........ struts would hold door up till i whacked a couple of jensen speakers in  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D now one strut is chocked on driver side to hold open,,,
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 22, 2012, 08:54:29 AM
and top hinge with door shut... .. have fun dano  ;)  ;D
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Post by: Dano on October 22, 2012, 10:16:37 PM
Perfect thankyou
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Post by: petrolhead on October 22, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
Could it be a Valiant?

[VC Valiant to be exact/quote]
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Post by: mezzmo on October 23, 2012, 05:39:48 AM
Hi Skip, could you get me some really clear shots of that hinge system you have set up, as well as the hinge dimensions - i like the look and it looks pretty solid.

cheers mate
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Post by: Jeff on October 23, 2012, 09:22:56 AM
Hi Skip, could you get me some really clear shots of that hinge system you have set up, as well as the hinge dimensions - i like the look and it looks pretty solid.

cheers mate

I was thinking the same thing. And a comment on how solid please.
Thanks Skippy.
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Post by: Rogue Trooper on October 23, 2012, 10:16:58 AM
Looks like a piano hinge to me which is what was used on my side door. Here's a link to the page that had a couple of shots of mine.

http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=222.30 (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=222.30)
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Post by: mezzmo on October 23, 2012, 10:35:57 AM
Thanks Rogue, but what is the hinge made of? Did you use stainless? i figure painting the hinge would be near on useless so if its not stainless, how do you prevent the rust?
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Post by: Warren on October 23, 2012, 11:42:28 AM
Thanks Rogue, but what is the hinge made of? Did you use stainless? i figure painting the hinge would be near on useless so if its not stainless, how do you prevent the rust?

You DON'T :)
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Post by: Rogue Trooper on October 23, 2012, 12:19:33 PM
Thanks Rogue, but what is the hinge made of? Did you use stainless? i figure painting the hinge would be near on useless so if its not stainless, how do you prevent the rust?

I did use stainless. You are correct.

It seems to have held up OK over time although it probably hasn't had quite as much use as it would have if it had been on the road more frequently.

There was a discussion on here somewhere over whether a piano hinge was suitable or not and I'm not ruling out having to come up with something else for whatever reason in the future but for now it seems to be OK. I guess the main test will be the certifying engineer.
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Post by: petrolhead on October 23, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Thanks Rogue, but what is the hinge made of? Did you use stainless? i figure painting the hinge would be near on useless so if its not stainless, how do you prevent the rust?

You DON'T :)
Beddies left the factory with rust
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 24, 2012, 08:28:21 AM
hey groovers.... had a good gander at it and it has been mounted in the same fashion as rougues  has mounted his.... could well be a piano hinge but to me seems a tad heavier duty for a keyboard cover...maybe the hinge that holds the top on where one looks inside ??? or possibly a grand piano hinge ??? ok, dimensions of the hinge are , flange that is tack welded to the doortop.. 14mm. hinge centre diameter round the 6.5mm. flange that is screw mounted to the body about 20mm...total length of hinge 1290mm
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 24, 2012, 08:32:39 AM
hinge pivot is only bit showing on outside, this door has a habit of unlatching itself on occasion....have heard it bump when going over dips in rd etc, so has taken a bit of punishment and has always stayed solid, has been dropped shut couple of times with no damage
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 24, 2012, 08:37:58 AM
the door itself is extremly solid, an heavy, so the hinge seems to handle it without sighs of stress to any part of its mounting....
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 24, 2012, 08:42:30 AM
the door itself at an educated guess had once been 2 single rear barn style doors, that have been welded together to create one "biggie" these two piccys lead me to believe this
Title: Re: name that bumper
Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 24, 2012, 08:46:56 AM
hope this helps guys if need any more info/shots just let me know.... an finally, and has nothing to do with the doors, a piccy for george of my new hubcaps cos i think they look reeeal cool..cheers skip  ;)
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Post by: Jeff on October 24, 2012, 02:23:07 PM
Thanks Skippy and Rogue. I never thought of using a piano type hinge. Perfect!
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Post by: Rogue Trooper on October 24, 2012, 02:35:18 PM
Just be careful with it as I don't know what the certifier will say. I'll find some time to look it up in the regs.
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Post by: tiwaz_nz on October 24, 2012, 07:44:13 PM
i have two vans here with piano type hinge.... the swb has a top door and a lower with a panel between
and the parts van has two , a top and bottom , but open to be a full size opening
 
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Post by: petrolhead on October 24, 2012, 09:12:44 PM
"Piano" is just a style, it doesn't mean that it actually came off a piano, the hubcaps are XJ6 Jaguar I was using Jag front & rear suspension on a Street Rod I was building
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Post by: SkippyThBushKangeroo on October 25, 2012, 07:10:46 AM
"Piano" is just a style, it doesn't mean that it actually came off a piano, the hubcaps are XJ6 Jaguar I was using Jag front & rear suspension on a Street Rod I was building
                                                                                                                                        correctmundo petrol; XJ6 rims n hubbies , but pissed off the jag heads for griffin heads instead, ...aawww u mean my hinge isnt off a grand..... was gonna tell people it was a "frankenstein hinge"  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: name that bumper
Post by: Rogue Trooper on October 25, 2012, 10:01:52 AM
Here's the relevant section regarding door hinges from the NZ Technical Manual. From what I read size matters. As long as the hinge is big enough it should be OK.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/Rogue1234/Documents/DoorHinge1.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/Rogue1234/Documents/DoorHinge2.jpg)
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Post by: Warren on October 25, 2012, 11:32:06 AM
Size ALWAYS matters  ;D
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Post by: Jeff on October 25, 2012, 12:35:12 PM
Thank-you Rogue.
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