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Technical => Maintenance => Topic started by: crisis on February 19, 2012, 02:51:19 PM
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Hi all, the lower suspension arm gave up and now I am thinking new lower arms?? Does anyone make tubular or have any advice. I don't trust the other one or an original as it obviously wasn't designed for the oversized V8 engine??
Someone said Jag front end, any experience with this as an alternative? :'(
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you shouldnt be to worried about the v8 with standard front end iv never seen a wishbone fail unless the bolts break oe its been stuffed around by a dickie ball joint .Iv got some spare lower ones if you want them , pedders stock the bushes
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Awesome, Thanks I'll touch base with you this week.
I tried to post a pic but maybe was too large a file. the ball joint is still intact, it simply ripped itself a new hole in the lower wishbone!!!!
Just finishing pulling it all out this arvo, gonna get it all sandblasted and grab new shockies, ball joints etc etc. I do plan on entering into driving events etc. hence the thinking that I might need to uprate the suspension?
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Hey Steve, i looked into this a while back, and considered organising a group buy. There is a mob over east that seem more than capable of manufacturing what we want, the downside is that to get it right they will likely need a van, or at the very least a working suspension setup to get everything correct.
I was going to ask that they fabricate what we need, however rather than using the bedford stub axle, i was going to ask that they use a HQ stub axle (which is why they would need a van or atleast a complete setup to get everything correct as the angle needs modifying)
The mob i am referring to is:
http://www.mcdonaldbrosracing.com.au/tubularwishbones.html (http://www.mcdonaldbrosracing.com.au/tubularwishbones.html)
check thru the website, they are more than qualified to fabricate what is needed. The main advantage to these is the ability to control caster and camber in a simple easy manner. Personally i'd prefer they be over engineered/strengthened
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hey chris ive said this a few times and im not sure if your aware but the later model standard cf wishbones ar 4mm instead of the early ones are only 3mm and i belive holden requested this because the idea of putting v8's in bedfords was being thrown around by holden. if you get some later model wishbones you shouldnt have a problem.
i too had a problem with v8 + early wishbones lucky wasnt doing fast speeds:( or could have been fatal.
cheers
ben
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Hi Keith
Sorry we don't make any components for that range of vehicle.
Regards
Ray McDonald
McDonald Bros Racing
03 9465 0000
www.mcdonaldbrosracing.com.au (http://www.mcdonaldbrosracing.com.au)
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:D maybe we should ALL email them ::)
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I never expected that they would carry the parts already. If you re-read what i wrote, i was intending to ask for custom built components, and potentially get a group buy together to make it worth the manufacturers while.
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i never asked about what they had in stock
asked if they were willing to help or design something for cf bedford..
if you can get them to make them i,m interested..depending on cost..
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Hi guy's and Gal's,
roadblock on the front end, anybody know where I can obtain a right hand stubb axle for my 1971 beast. Hoping to get to van nat's but with no front end no chance :( Craig had found one but was a bit different to mine (thicker axle) any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
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the one your after are the sort after one. i got some but not too keen on letting them go
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Worst case scenario, if i get off my ass and get some discs to machine down to my new stub axle size, my current stubs will be available. The have been machined to suit HQ/Z discs (which is bad) tho they've held up for likely 30 years or more ;) so should be ok in the short term while you locate a set of spares.
EDIT: wait, was your stub axle thicker, or Craig's? the thicker ones are the better option.. just machine your discs down further if it was Craig with the thicker stub axles.
What's wrong with yours?
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he is after the thinner of the 2
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so the thinner are more sought after? i'd rather the strength personally ;)
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he needs the 72 stub axle
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so the thinner are more sought after? i'd rather the strength personally Wink
the reason they are more sought after is you can grab the standard stub axel grab a standard hq disc rotor and get standard bearings (one bedford one xa ford) and it all fits together without machining anything.. when for the larger i havent seen anyone do the conversion without mods to something. whether it be disc brake rotor or stub axel.
ben
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over here the ticker one is the lwb one
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over here the ticker one is the lwb one
you sure? thats weird cant understand why theyd be different? maybe i should pull a few more lwb hubs off to see if there all thinner axels here.
ben
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Worst case scenario, if i get off my ass and get some discs to machine down to my new stub axle size, my current stubs will be available. The have been machined to suit HQ/Z discs (which is bad) tho they've held up for likely 30 years or more ;) so should be ok in the short term while you locate a set of spares.
EDIT: wait, was your stub axle thicker, or Craig's? the thicker ones are the better option.. just machine your discs down further if it was Craig with the thicker stub axles.
What's wrong with yours?
G'day Matt, Craigs was thicker than mine hence the requirement to machine it done to fit. Machining down to fit seems a hell of a job, so really hoping to find one ready to go? are you saying you have some available or no? Cheers
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Hi all, Ben you sure you don't wanna sell one of your spare stubb axles? m m maate!! ha ha As far as I can tell, if properly maintained it is a life time article that should not need to be on the spares required list. mine is floggerd out due to nil maintenance. let me know cheers.
If not does anyone know how else to find one? any UK sights or something of the like? Cheers
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Another source of bedford bits is Bedford Manour in Brisbane, do a search here and ebay and you should find him.
Warren
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0402989175 Rob @ Bedford manor 8)
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Ben, i didnt realise the smaller stubs didn't require modifications to the disc rotors when using a conversion.
The larger stubs as far as i know are LWB right thru, and all vans from 1975 or 1976 onwards.
Steve, my stubs will be different to yours however can be used with standard HQ discs. They are currently being used, however once i get some new rotors and have them machined to fit my other stubs (the ones i showed you) then my current ones will be available even if only to get you to the van nats ;)
My current ones are the larger type machined down, I am fairly certain
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Cheers Matt, I think I'll probably miss the Nat's at this rate. I'll keep looking for another stubb axle or maybe will have to machine down a thicker one myself. Anybody know who can do this?
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yesterday i remembered where an old bedford cf truck is.
-drove to the blokes house.
-chatted for an hour
-put a deposit down on the rusted out beast
-going to collect it in 2 weeks (when i have my new block)
-will have a stub axel for you then.
ben
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dont machine stub axels. they can potentially break., i know 2 people that have broken stub axels (both at slow speeds thank god!) and the cause is most likely because of this. you know what they say "dont machine stub axels"
ben
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yesterday i remembered where an old bedford cf truck is.
-drove to the blokes house.
-chatted for an hour
-put a deposit down on the rusted out beast
-going to collect it in 2 weeks (when i have my new block)
-will have a stub axel for you then.
ben
Hey Ben, Excellent, i have sourced some in UK, is it a definite with you now, so i don,t have to worry? Cheers Steve
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yes i have one now for you. please call me on 0430053679