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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: Bas NZ on March 21, 2011, 08:00:48 PM
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Ok guys, who supplies the VN S1 timing chain, gears and tensioner in Aussie, or sold as a timing chain kit. can't get them in NZ only the VN S2, any ideas. Cheers ???
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Baz....There are 2 companies that i deal with here in Perth W.A. They are Coventry auto parts and Veale automotive parts . Both are good. cheers...johnno ;D
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Thanks John, tried Coventy about six months ago, no go not to NZ anyway, Veale seem only intrested in supplying the trade, but will keep in contact. Cheers
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Hey john, can't you just buy the parts from autobarn or supercheap ?
george
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I reckon you could George...But the guys at the two places i deal with have either a mechanical trade background or long years in the parts industry... So i prefer a older bloke rather than a young guy who only sells chrome exhaust tips and doof doof accessories... ;D ;D ;D
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True, some of these guys we'rnt even born when the beddy was around. The last time i bought a starter motor, i took the old one in, the kid asked me what it was from, i told him a bedford, he said ok a ford transit, i said are you kidding, i said a bedford, holden, eventually and older guy came over, went through the parts book and gave me a replacement. ;D ;D ;D I get that all the time, maybe they dont listen, maybe the ford in bedford confuses them. mmmmmmm ;) ;D ;D
george.
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awh you guys, its not the young guys fault he was born after the beddie was created its simply another opportunity to spread the beddie word and educate the less fortunate ... grumpy old bugas ;D
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Who has used the VP timming chain tensioner on there VN S1, and which one, as there is two for the VP, (only the later model / version available in NZ)
There is also a reversed VN S1 chain available but $239.00 :'( also If VP tensioner used What changes were made -- bolt etc, if you have used a VP tensioner do you have the part number. Thanks ???
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sorry no part number, the bolt is longer and the spring arm is longer. is held together by spring clip, I just swapped the bolt and spring, the rest is the same
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Yes, but the spring is where the problem is, so little chance of using that again might have to fork out for the reverse kit.
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Hey Bas....It might be worth your while browsing around the "Just Commodore Forum" and picking the section relating to vn vp . Then ask a question in the search box and see what posts come up? ;D ;D :-\
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/vn-vp-holden-commodore-1988-1993/ (http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/vn-vp-holden-commodore-1988-1993/)
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I pulled apart the block that I was using to make the crossmember and engine mounts in mine. I have no idea which model the block was from but it was definitely a later model to my engine and I just swapped the whole unit spring and all.
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just use the new spring, if it is longer just snip it to suit.
The bit that was to long is just the end that goes into the block, we're talking 5-8mm
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Yes david I understand that, thanks, BUT Shane says that there are2 VP units an eailer and later model the eailer model comes up with the same part number ( threaded bolt) the later moder comes up with a different number and a blind bolt fitting? so I guess you used the eailer model, but holden shows none left in the country, the later model is around $90.00. Bas
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Ok, update for those interested, Have decided to go with the double row timing chain kit, so don't need a tensioner any more, the kit comes with the chain and new cam gears. :D I'm not saying the double row chain is any better, but you don't use the tensioner, and this is the part that is a problem to get in NZ, and the reversed kit you can get for the VN S1 is not cheap, this reversed tensioner is the same as the VR use but fitted with the short bolt and smaller spring.
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I wouldnt mind a pic of this setup when you get it Bas. Just for curiosity ;D
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No probs, will be about a week away, Holden use this set up on there V8 motors, and ofcourse most race cars use this too.
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how does it compare price wise?
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Still waiting on full price, will be around $200ish, that's will all gaskets cam gears etc needed.
David will go the way because I am not sure where the rattle is from, it is either the tensioner or balance shaft bearing, (both of which will be made redundant with a double row timing chain)
I would like to set up straight cut gears, but would cost to much...................
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Hey Bas.....I have a s1 vn with a rattle in the engine bay. I was quite sure it was the balance shaft but i tried a little trick which was...i took off the serpentine belt (fanbelt or drivebelt) and started the motor, not one rattle !! :o If it had been a timing chain or anything else in the engine internals it would of kept rattling. So that narrowed iy down to the accessory pulleys, eg powersteering,alternater,waterpump,tensioner,and aircon. So it turned out it was a dodgey powersteering pump Yah ;D ;D so i am in the process of rebuilding a second hand one to replace it with.I was so glad i didnt have to open up the engine :D :D
P.S I got this tip from a post on the Just Commodore site (thankyou) ::)
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Hey johnno, i thought you were going to say, i tried a little trick, i called a mechanic. ;) ;D ;D ::) sorry mate. ;)
george.
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Hey Bas, aren't they the "noisey" gears
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Hey Bas, aren't they the "noisey" gears
Double row chain is know different from standard, The set up in the first photo, are even smother again, you can't hear them at all like a Swiss clock, well aleast the set I had on my 302 were, it had a bypass pipe that directed oil to the gears.............
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Ha Ha Georgey....Yeah they have a little trick to, being able to empty my pockets of cash :D ;D :D ;D