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Technical => Electrics, Audio and Security => Topic started by: able on November 21, 2010, 02:30:02 PM
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at the moment i have no wires connected what so ever in my 202 and have put a blue dizzy and a slime line starter from another model.
i just need a quick guide to be able to kick the motor over that does not have to run through the dash as the dash is all removed.
just battery and starter if possible.....
thanx.
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Buga just wrote it all up and lost it.
Try again
Do you want the motor to just crank over or run ?
to just crank over you need two ciruits - the main power cct and a starting/switching cct.
First the main power cct - heavy cable from the +ve of the battery to the large +ve post( 8mm bolt thingie) on the starter soleniod, and another large cable from the -ve post to ground, either direct back to the batter or to ground on the chassis.
Now a switching cct - lighter wire from the +ve of the battery with an in line toggle or momentry switch to the +ve bayonet connector om the soleniod close to the posts, and from the -ve bayonet connector back to earth or -ve of the battery.
Press the moonetry switch or flip the toggle and you should have movment - just be carefull as you dont have any fuses in the ccts.
If you want it to run you need another switching cct to the coil - same as the starter switching cct - but this time just a toggle switch will do - from +ve on the battery via a toggle to the +ve connrctor on the coil and from the -ve to earth (or battery)
read the wireing diagram and only look at the cct from the battery to the starter to hel visualise what Im saying.
hope this helps Warren
If you
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thanks warren! yep it was just to crank.
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sorry to highjack post but same/same...... 350 chev, std ignition, new pts .019gap, new condenser, new coil, still no spark??.... not even a crackle at the points.... is dizzy .... u/s?
Dan
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Dano, just try a wire from positive batt., to positive coil and see if you have spark, before you turf the dissy
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Dano check the small earth strap in the dizzy is connected and also check you haven't got the points wire on the wrong side of the insulator and try dropping the gap to 16 thou if you still get nothing and you got 12 v at the pos side of coil I 'd say your coil is cactus
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Dano, just try a wire from positive batt., to positive coil and see if you have spark, before you turf the dissy
I agree bypass all the ignition cicuitry as I stated earlier
If you want it to run you need another switching cct to the coil - same as the starter switching cct - but this time just a toggle switch will do - from +ve on the battery via a toggle to the +ve connrctor on the coil and from the -ve to earth (or battery)
This will isolate all your harnesses ignition cct, and if it starts - go looking further - if it dont - get another dizzy.
*Edit Merlin got in before me - yeah the coil could be an issue too.
Always replace the cheapest part first.
Warren
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ok thanks lads, i do have power right to the points, just going to try 16th + earth return to batt, me thinks an earthing prob. the dizz base plate seems a little loose (points screw to) and i can move the little weights / cam lobes is this correct? (just a toggle to open /close points)
dano
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Dano
Those little weights are the mechanical advance units they move the shaft as the revs increase the centrafugal force forces the cam lobes around, advancing? the timing.
So you should be able to move the shaft 5 or so degrees.
Warren
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Ok,was able to finally get a good spark at the points, using my supa coil, and direct + from batt to pos coil,changed back to new old coil and the spark was there but seemed weak, changed back to supa coil and fitted dizzycap and lead, laid lead to floor/earth to check spark and seemed weak, tested lead, 6.82 resistance,??? and by this time the batt was getting tied so went out to get new batt but nothing open.......cracked a burbon kicked the kin thing and went inside...... :D
2morro....dam it!
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I GOT THE FKR!!!!!!!! new electric dizzy, leads'plugs......PUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROARRRRR!!!! didn't even hesitate.... amazing.
thanks all for your input.. 8)
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What dizzy did you go for Dano?
Garry
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hey Gaz, for this one ...bbbbbbudget.... auto pro do a very nice billet /red electronic dizzy, plug n play $239.00 (i paid $219.00) +$60..00 leads +$40.00 plugs..... I was able to "return" the points,condenser,resistor, for $60.00... ;) so all in all $266......was worth every penny... considering I was climbing all the the fn van.. for hrs too.
pluged to turn key , instant ignition 1.5 hrs YOU LITTLE B E UTEY!
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Thanks Dano - a little trip to auto pro will be on the menu. (and keep the points dizzy as a spare when travelling!)
Garry
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only catch is you'll need a second set of leads, points dizzy = male type leads, EI = female type, just note what type of headers you have as this will save you a second trip .
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Neat. it looks to be the same dizzy I've got on the 253 but I never knew what brand it was. The 308 is still running points and a coil.
Have you played with the adjustable vacuum advance yet? The one on my 253 is seized and I reckon I'd twist it off before it turned :(
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Hey Dano....How does borrys engine sound mate? Have you taken him for a spin around the block yet?
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Johnno,
When I had her she sounded nice. After what he has added she should sound awesome.
Dano, did that dizzy that I had in the back not work? I paid fkn good $$ for that.
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Johnno,
When I had her she sounded nice. After what he has added she should sound awesome.
Dano, did that dizzy that I had in the back not work? I paid fkn good $$ for that.
hey Russ, still don't know what that ones outta, but she's about 3-4"short for a chev, will find out one day....Johnno, yeah mate have been round the block (last yrs attempt... drive in night)lol there was plenty of grunt then.... now with that ignition, mate, smooth as a beddies bum :o
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OOOooo..Dano ... does this mean that Borrie will make an appearance at the drive in night ????? ;D ;D :o :o :o ::) ::)