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Title: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: Brendon on September 20, 2010, 06:15:05 PM
Hi all... I've got a set of spiffy fiberglass flares for my LWB 77 that i am going to screw on and noticed a few pics on here show a rubber padding between flare and body... is this a usual accompaniment to flares or optional and if they are beneficial what sort of rubber? size? is used... just cheap from clarkes rubber?

The flares i have fit pretty tight already (may need 6 sets of hand and some elbow grease to fit) so hoping absence of the rubber is cool.

cheers for any feedback
Brendon
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: rossie on September 20, 2010, 10:15:45 PM
yeah can get it from clark rubber, it's used on alot of old cars as well, such as VW, FJ to name a couple. Just in case they don't have taste and know what a bedford ;D
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: ben on September 21, 2010, 08:42:22 AM
pretty sure it was standard:)
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: petrolhead on September 21, 2010, 08:58:56 AM
Try them or Universal Engineers uesint.com.au personally I would glass them on
Regards
Petrolhead
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: Brendon on September 21, 2010, 10:44:44 AM
Try them or Universal Engineers uesint.com.au personally I would glass them on
Regards
Petrolhead


Yeah i think the look of them glassed on is preferable.
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: ben on September 23, 2010, 11:59:43 AM
i have been reading fiberglassforums.com lately.

they say no matter what you do, no matter what glue you use or whatever fibreglass to metal will eventually crack. because of the different heat expansion between the 2 materials.

ian your vans roof was glued tpgether for years with expoxy resin i read somewhere. can you tell me if it cracked eventually and how long if so?

cheers
ben
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: Bas NZ on September 23, 2010, 01:11:43 PM
Ben old story, expoxy resin due to the low wax content, micofibres, this will not crack if done right. I did a mates van 15 years ago when we started using this system, and it's still perfect, and the van runs a 350 worked, if you use any kind of matting or rovings from glass part to steel body, this will crack due to what you have said. the other golden rule is to always use pot-rivets or srews, the pot-rivets being the better to hold the part in place and leave them there, just make sure the heads are covered with a layer of glass. this will give the support needed to stop seperation. Also good idea to drill a couple of holes under the fibreglass part fitting to allow the filler (expoxy resin and micofibres) to grib too. and also if poss underseal / rubber type best the other side of the metal as this will stop all tempture changes......... :)
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: petrolhead on September 24, 2010, 08:27:40 PM
I'd Sikaflex and rivet them on with the biggest BLIND rivets that you can find then blend them in with fibreglass bog followed by normal bog as for Sikaflex that is what all late model cars are held together with and as what Matte said that stuff sticks like shyte to a blanket
Regards
Petrolhead
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: ben on September 24, 2010, 08:42:57 PM
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and also if poss underseal / rubber type best the other side of the metal as this will stop all tempture changes......... Smiley

thats a good idea:)

yeh ive used epoxy resin a microfibres to glue on some standard fibreglass guards i made for this cairns van. looking forward to getting my licence back:)

ben
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: Bas NZ on September 25, 2010, 10:55:37 AM
I'd Sikaflex and rivet them on with the biggest BLIND rivets that you can find then blend them in with fibreglass bog followed by normal bog as for Sikaflex that is what all late model cars are held together with and as what Matte said that stuff sticks like shyte to a blanket
Regards
Petrolhead


Do you mean Sikaflex®-552 AT High-performance assembly adhesive ?
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: petrolhead on September 25, 2010, 11:28:17 PM
Possibly it's like black silastic, tuff as all hell and you can paint it, when you order a firewall for a commodore a tube of it comes with it, they also use it in truck cabs
Regards
Petrolhead
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: Dano on September 28, 2010, 12:28:51 AM
Hi all... I've got a set of spiffy fiberglass flares for my LWB 77 that i am going to screw on and noticed a few pics on here show a rubber padding between flare and body... is this a usual accompaniment to flares or optional and if they are beneficial what sort of rubber? size? is used... just cheap from clarkes rubber?

The flares i have fit pretty tight already (may need 6 sets of hand and some elbow grease to fit) so hoping absence of the rubber is cool.

cheers for any feedback
Brendon
Brendon, i believe it's simply a piece of plastic "piping" cord wrapped in a vinyl of your colour choice, it's simply a cosmetic solution to " a bad fit " or poor mould, or simply a finisher ..... ask any motor trimmer to sew you up some with a "long tail" so you can pinch or attatch it with you flares. i have to do mine very soon and will be posting photo's when I get to it, prob next week if i can get my door on. If your really desperate let me know and I can sought it for you, just pm me. Dano
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: petrolhead on September 28, 2010, 08:08:50 AM
Danno, universal engineers(www.uesint.com (http://www.uesint.com)) have got it on the shelf, check out the website they have pictures of it I think it's called insertion rubber, could be wrong
Regards
Petrolhead
Title: Re: LWB rear flares Question
Post by: Brendon on September 28, 2010, 10:38:02 AM
Brendon, i believe it's simply a piece of plastic "piping" cord wrapped in a vinyl of your colour choice, it's simply a cosmetic solution to " a bad fit " or poor mould, or simply a finisher ..... ask any motor trimmer to sew you up some with a "long tail" so you can pinch or attatch it with you flares. i have to do mine very soon and will be posting photo's when I get to it, prob next week if i can get my door on. If your really desperate let me know and I can sought it for you, just pm me. Dano

righto cheers... thinking with the amount of work put into my baby would be a shame not to fit the flares right... going to suss out glassing them on.

thanks all.
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