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Technical => Maintenance => Topic started by: kimbosound on March 15, 2010, 01:39:29 PM
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Hi all, i am about to take the truck to pedders to get the front end re bushed and tidyed up. I will also be replacing the ball joints. A while back someone discovered that a model torana ball joint
suits the beddy....i cant remember who it was and the model torana the ball joint that suits......
Cheers
Kimbo......got loads of work done on the truck over the weekend......not far to go now before it's ready for rego :)
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GO Kimmy.... ;D :D ;D
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i haven't heard the torana ball joint theory, but to be honest i'm sceptical.
If i had a dollar for every time iv'e heard " it'll fit straight in" i'd have twenty bucks at least (and maybe 4 more kids ::)).
JW is the best that i know of,$60 each and he will post.
you can get them a bit cheaper off ebay uk, but it's harder to return them if you get the wrong one.
I had one of the little f#ckers pop out on me on the weekend, lucky i was nowhere going slowly, could have been nasty if the wheel hadn't jammed into the guard and locked up pointing straight ahead. A real pain to get on the towtruck too
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Hi Worzel....who is JW? and do you have a contact for him.....cheers Kimbo
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jim withers of J W Classic Car Parts.
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03 9762 6025 home or 0411 088 342 or JWClassicParts@aol.com
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Thanks for the info :)
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Kimbo
I rang a few of the Perth suspenson places and thier price for balljoints was much higher than JW.
JW's was excellent, i didnt know what size my beddy took so I got them to send me both sizes, he only charged for the ones i kept and I posted the spares back. Sensational service - prompt, friendly & helpful.
there is a string I added to on here somewhere with photos of the two types, might help you work out which type you need.
I ended up getting a work collegue to help fit them so didnt go through a suspension place in the end.
cheers
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There are two sizes for the lower ball joint,
the early ones are smaller and go with a smaller stub axle, but the axles often get changed over so look at the ones that are in your van and see if they have a grease nipple, the early do and the latter don't.
The upper are the same for the early and latter ones i believe
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For some reason i think that the different ball joint size came out with each different sized stub axel but isnt limited to stay with that stub axel..
im pretty sure the only difference between them is the size of where the ball joint meets the wishbone.
but hugh is right about grease nipples thou:)
ben
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BED767 here The ealy model cfs bedfords had the smaller ball joints and the arms they mounted into were a thinner gauge metal. Due to some bending failures,a redesign was done increasing the gauge of the steel and size of the ball joint,but retaining the design size,making them interchangable. I have seen early model unequal arms bent due to engine capacity change.
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hey bed767 so your saying the early wishbones are lighter guage metal? very interesting that is. thanks heaps for that:)
i had a wishbone fail on me months back and that would also be a contributing factor.
ben
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Benny boy
I'd be more inclined to think the lowering of your van had more to do with your failure - with the lowering of a vehicle (by changing to shorter springs) means that the van will be hitting the bump stop more often (unless extreemely hevier springs are added) and tranfering all that force into an unmovable object rather than being absorbed by the spring.
Eventaully this "Hammering" will cause stress and fatigue at the weakest point, and it will fail. (which is what I think happend in your case).
Springs are wonderfull things :D
Warren
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haha i like that saying warren,
Springs are wonderfull things ;D
n i recon shocks rocks.
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bed767 again Having worked for T.R.W. in the press shop devision for 21years as a fitter, I can tell you 10 thou. of extra thickness of steel on a susspension arm is 20% stronger.
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For some reason i think that the different ball joint size came out with each different sized stub axel but isnt limited to stay with that stub axel..
im pretty sure the only difference between them is the size of where the ball joint meets the wishbone.
but hugh is right about grease nipples thou:)
ben
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bed767 again Having worked for T.R.W. in the press shop devision for 21years as a fitter, I can tell you 10 thou. of extra thickness of steel on a susspension arm is 20% stronger.
how many mills id 10 thou?
cheers
ben
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To answer the initial question, it is the upper balljoint that is the same as the Torana, judging by the part numbers I have been quoted of late.
Ben, 10 thou = 0.254 millimetres