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Technical => Miscellaneous Technical => Topic started by: Bedfordcrazy on March 07, 2010, 09:20:36 AM
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Hi Guys, can someone help with some advice. I want to put a set of hurricanes wheels on my van, problem, they dont make hurricanes anymore. So I decided to look at 4x4 rims, found a couple I liked, problem, 4x4 rims are 6 stud, and I have hq 5 stud. So I am looking at getting a set of rims cut so that I get the design and stud pattern I want, has anyone gone down this path ? if so what sort of cost is involved ? I know it will depend on detail in the wheel and size, I am looking at maybe a 17x9 or 10 hurricane, i think this is the size of a factory landcruiser 100 wheel. At the moment I have 14x7 hurricanes on there, skinny little things when under a beddy. Thanks guys.
George.........
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14x7 rims are not skinny. Are you sure of your dimensions? I have 14x7's all round on mine currently with 245 tyres and they are not skinny. You certainly wouldn't want to go to anything wider on the front due to the added stress on the steering componentry as well as the tyre hitting the guards when turning.
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Hi Rogue, I am pretty sure we read 14x7 on the rim the other day, will check again when rain stops. I am also opening up my guards a bit and putting some flares on. But I will be getting the right advice from a wheel company b4 i settle on a size. My tyres / wheels look like donuts on my van, everyone comments on how unproportionate they look. mmmmm >:( When you look at the van from behind there is nothing to look at. ;D I have a pic in my album, I can't post a pic here because I keep getting told that 500 is to big. :'( >:( ???
George..............
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hi there, seeing you have hq bolt pattern you can easily have wheels made up.old school wheels like the hurricanes and dragways dont come in sizes larger than 15 inch diameter.you can get new dragways now in sizes up to 19inchbut are very expensive .i was quoted $580 each for 17 inch dragways.some wheel companies sell their wheels blank and you have them drilled out for hq stud pattern.
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My main requirement is the tyre width, when you look at it from behind I want something that looks beefy. Height is not so much a requirement, for every inch i lift the van tyre wise, will make it harder for me to get from chair to van. Because i'm doing flares, width is not so much a problem.
George........................
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Go mad on the rear. I've got 15" 275's on a 10" rim going on the back. Would have liked 295's but sadly they are no longer available. The fronts will be 15" 245's on an 8" rim. The front will be a slimmer tyre for the reasons stated above and I will still be flaring but at least the shape of the wheel arch will remain the same.
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hey george, if you mean the hurricanes i'm thinking of, then they are still being produced, we were awarded a new set for winning the endurance race at the end of last year.. 14x8s they're made by ROH. Unless you're talking about different rims all together.
But it sounds liek your problem is tyre width, not rim width.
I have 245s on 15x7 rims on the front, and 295s on 15x10 rims on the back.
I have heard that it is possible(and legal) to fit upto 295s on 8in rims. Check out some wheel websites, they should tell you what the maximum width tyre you can fit for a rim.
If you look real close at your tyre it will probably say something like 205/50/r14. 205 being the tyre width, 50 being the side wall height, and r14 the 14in rim..
You'll probably find you can get 255s or 265s on the back with a 7in rim, but i'd check it first.
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wow i didnt think that 295 could go on 8" rims. i was under the impression that a 295 tyre is 12" tyre. which i thought could only go on a 10" rim but im guinna find out.
my experience is you want 295 x 15" on 10" wide rims. best look out there. 1 thing ive found is that you put 265 tyres on 8" rims they look skinnyer than if you put 265 on 10" rim. dont ask ,me why. i think the rim pushes them out fatter which looks cool. you really want 15's on the back and maybe 14's or 15's on the front. reason being you cant get anythoing wider than a 265 50's profile on 14"s and they look silly. too small. you really need 295 by 15's on the back to make it look right. ben
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Hi Rogue, I am pretty sure we read 14x7 on the rim the other day, will check again when rain stops. I am also opening up my guards a bit and putting some flares on. But I will be getting the right advice from a wheel company b4 i settle on a size. My tyres / wheels look like donuts on my van, everyone comments on how unproportionate they look. mmmmm >:( When you look at the van from behind there is nothing to look at. ;D I have a pic in my album, I can't post a pic here because I keep getting told that 500 is to big. :'( >:( ???
George..............
d/load shrink pic George..... works a treat.
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Hey matte, the hurricanes are what the A-Team had on their van. Yanks call them turbo wheels, I have a pic in my album. If your rims are not the same can you post a pic ? I know that a few companies are doing a modern spin on the old hurricanes. Some of them look great.
George....................
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hey ben how do i shring my pics ??? ;D i'm not as pc smarts like you. ;D
George....................
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thats shrink...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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i add them to photobucket then upload the link itrs the way i recon its the easiest. you put the link in thats got img/blablabla/img in it.
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to shrink a photo use something like adobe photoshop, or infraview, in photshop do a "save for the web" or resize.
Warren
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sorry george, trying to set a link for you but havent quite figured this one out yet....but just download , save to were you can find it again , check for bugs , run....sorry not the best comp.head around either...buga
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hmmmmmm might have worked ??? is this correct?
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i usually edit em wiv paint & save as an change file type to jpeg
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hey george, we're talking about the same rims.
We were awarded the rims by Mr Mag in Perth. I know they had another new set a few weeks back, 8in too i think. they're a ROH made rim, so i'd call a few rim suppliers or even ROH themselves. 15's will be easier to find tyres for, but 14's sound like they'll suit your needs better. 265's or wider will look much MUCH better than 205s will
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Thanks matte, I will check into roh and let you know how I go.
George................
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Hey matte, spoke to roh, their response was [ good luck lol ] he told me there is a guy in perth called, MR MAGS, or keith for wheels here in brissy, they sell old stock and seconds. I have a couple of backup rims I like so it might be time to look at those or look at cutting a new set of hurricanes. I'm still a few months away from buying.
George............
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Hey guys, I am just testing to see if I have sorted out my resizing problem. Here is a pic of my anarexic wheels and tyres. ;D
George.............here goes nothing.. ;D ;D
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hoorah, this pc dummy may just leave the vinyl era and get a handle on pc technology. ;D ;D ;D Here are my wheels specs.
George.......................Thanks guys for the help. BUGA solves another problem. oh yeh....
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george you have razor blade 195 tyres on those 7" rims which can fit up to 245 on them which wont be so small:) have a look at other vans with 245's on them and you may be suprised and save yourself a whole lota dough folken out for new rims:)
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george you have razor blade 195 tyres on those 7" rims which can fit up to 245 on them which wont be so small:) have a look at other vans with 245's on them and you may be suprised and save yourself a whole lota dough folken out for new rims:)
What Ben said. As I said right up the top, 245's fit great on the 7's and they do not look skinny.
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get new tyres!!!!! ive got 225's and they look alright. though i guess 245's will only look better.
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Popped out and took a snap of mine tonight with the 14x7 245's on the front. It's a bit dark I'm afraid but the sun has decided to bugger off and the flash wasn't making much headway from a distance. Should give you a good idea especially as the spoiler is currently off. Can't get one of the rear I'm afraid as there isn't enough room for a shot in the back of the garage.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/Rogue1234/Front-3.jpg)
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mr mag has blank hurricanes in stock you may have to badger him a bit if you say bedford they become very disintrested .
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Rogue T. your garage space looks like mine, except I also have a motorbike i have to share it with and i can't open my lift up side door.
On my standard van I have 225's on 7" rims, on customs have 245 on 8" rims - on the fronts
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I have a set of real spoke rims for sale if any one interested they are 15 x 10 and 15 x 7 with new 295 & 235 tyres they are multi fit (spinner knockoffs) am chasing $1800 ono for them I will try and put a pic up for ya Cheers Neil
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Rogue T. your garage space looks like mine, except I also have a motorbike i have to share it with and i can't open my lift up side door.
Yes, space is at a bit of a premium. I've stashed a bit of stuff in my basement like a lot of the bits I still have to fit to the van. I also have a semi-enclosed carport beside the garage and I do a lot of my welding in there except when the weather gets particularly nasty. You make do with the space you have available.
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Hey George,
You're right. Those tyres you have on there have to go. They look like some form of off road type tyre looking at the treat pattern and way to skinny.
I'm running 245 x 50 x 14 BFG's on a 7" X 14 rim on the front of my van and 275 x 50 x 15 BFG's on 8" x 15 on the rear. Both look good and handle well although they don't make the 245's any more. Will probably go up to 17" on the front and 18" on the rear when I have to replace them. I did try 235 x 60 x 14's on the front before I fitted power steering but these just didn't look right (too tall and thin).
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/sundownernz/vans/fronttire.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/sundownernz/vans/RearTire.jpg)
Cheers,
Garry.
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Hi Garry, you have the same wheels that I have on my van. They look good on your van, I will look into new tyres, thanks guys, all your posts have helped.
George....................
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gary i have a few sets of those 245 50 14s in the eagers.. im scared to put them on a van cause im sure they will scrub out and last me like 2 months... whats your tips for good tyre wear? cheers ben
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If they're scrubbing out then there is something seriously wrong with your alignment. If they scrub out in that period of time then get your toe checked. Crook toe alignment wears the tyres out far quicker than your camber being out.
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ok. ive never had a van that doesnt scrub on the inside. yeh not 2 months that was exadurated sorry
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Does my bum look big in these? :-\
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa315/johnabbott_2007/FatArse1.jpg)
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Oops forgot,,, 14x7 all round. 245/60/14s rear 215/65/14 front
cheers..johnno
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Yes it does Barge Arse ;D
Warren
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Geez Warren...You almost hurt my feelings there for a minute :D ;D (almost) Hee Hee
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Yep. Big bum, chubby legs and a little diff.
I AM talking about the truck John, not Australia's next sexy model in a tee shirt (re; gallery)
;D ;D ;D.
Nothin more luvable than a Beddie truck.
Cheers Mark.
(sorry, couldn't resist.)
kinda glad you're on the udder side of the world at the moment. :D
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Haa Haa....Cmon guys im wiggling my bum at ya Hee Hee ;D :D ;D
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Hey Ben,
Yeah as Rogue said, the key is good wheel alignment. You need to probably ask around a few of the rod guys and find a shop that knows what they're doing with wide tyres. Then talk to the shop and see what they know about CF's. If they set it up wrong you'll cut tyres out real quick especially if they're wide. Once done keep an eye on them. Check them every few weeks of so and any sign of scuffing take them back and bleat over the shop that did the job. If they're any good they'll be able to see from the wear pattern what needs to be altered and fix it. If you leave them too long you'll loose the tyres.
Cheers,
Garry.
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hey Garry, over here we need to go to a truck alignment centre, in the past i have been told that a normal place like beaurepairs can't do bedford vans, they are to wide or to this and that. Having said that the last time i tried was back in 2000, so i dont know if things have changed over the years.
George. ;D
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Don't touch Me !! ;D
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if you have standard wheels you should be right..
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It all depends on what the hoist set up is or if they do it over a pit like one of the guys doen here in the south. My olf van would not fit due to the wing mirrows hit the pillars on the hoist.
Cheers