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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: ben on March 03, 2010, 05:16:31 AM
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everyone wants to save a quid.
ive never bought a good radiator new but ive herd they are damn expensive..
has anyone tried running 2 easy to come by 3 cores in seris? i know it sounds stupid but i have enough room to stand between my radiator and my engine and i could fit 2 more radiators in there if i was really keen:)
i was thinking out of one top into another bottom then back into the motor.
what about commadore radiators. they are so thin. i recon i could fit 5 of those in my engine bay. hmmm that would almost be as good as air conditioning!!!!!!
ben
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i wish i had more room there,
i don't know if the water pump would be struggling though
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not much more water than a 4core thou?? or maybe?
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by having them in series you would be effecting air flow wouldn't you?
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yeh but no different to a 5 core radiator or whatever its just spaced out a bit more. might be able to run thermos on both radiators?? now im getting carried away. my 4 core does a plenty good job, just at idle needs to pump a bit more water so ive been told today to get it to spin a bit faster get a smaller pulley for the water pump. cheers ben (on my sissters computer and its without an enter key|!! arg)
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I got a 3 core cross flow commodore radiator which just fits in at 670mm for $30 and I've never ever overheated again! Sits comfortably just above the blue even in 45 degree heat, at idle.
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wow!!!!! souns like the go.. i just gotta decide what im gunna put in my engine bay now thou? any suggestions? serious i have a foot clearance from the front of the engine block to the back of the thermo fans..
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Hey Ben, what motor do you have, thats a lot of room, V6 ?
George........................
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v8. 307. its back lots.. and down. for handling reasons.
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what did jags run for their v12,s?? would have had to have been decent at an educated guess
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if you want a serious radiator look at a J2 bedford radiator, i used these in a couple of vans i built.
The J0 and J1 are a lot smaller and rounded, the J2 has square tanks.
the original were honeycomb but can be changed to normal style
putting 2 or more in series would create a big hot spot between them as the air rolls through them
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30-40 odd years ago, my uncle had a transit with a 351 clevo, and he put in 2 radiators, one in the normal position, and another at 90degrees to it, either on the drivers or passengers side - i forget which
Back in those days radiators weren't quite as good as they are nowadays.. this would have happened somewhere in the hq-hz era..
It could be easily done, and more effective than having 2 running one infront of the other, but at the same time, one good radiator should be fine. I've got a fairly decent radiator, but nothing huge, and it always kept the 350 cool even driving through peak hour traffic.
I recommend running redline water wetter tho. This is an absolute must in any car, van, truck, bike.
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just buy a new 5 core ben , and know its good and be done with it. .
by the time uve finished mucking around with second hand things and the nightmares u might encounter .
there was a beddy on ebay a few weeks ago runnin a dual radiator.
the beddy motor home in rebuilding for my X has a twin s/s ehurst pipe runnin from front to back (about 12ft x 2 =24ft) 2 give extra water in the cooling system, seemed 2 work ok, not good in winter though as the heater wouldnt get hot enough 2 cook pies.:)
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excuse my marsupial like ignorance. . but wot is "redline water wetter" ??? or have i just been sucked in :-\
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hey skippy, it's better to ask and know, than to pretend to know and never ask..
Redline Water Wetter is a product you add to distilled water to replace 'coolant' in your cooling system.
'coolant' is mainly glycol, which is antifreeze - which does nothing to keep your motor cool. Unless you live somewhere that your fluids are likely to freeze over night(rare in oz) then you do not need glycol in your system.
'coolant' also contains rust inhibitor and anti corrosives.
Water wetter contains all the rust inhibitors and anti corrosives just like all other 'coolants' but no glycol, it has been proven to make a cooling system run cooler than with glycol, or water.
It can be used with glycol if you live somewhere that your fluids may freeze over night, and will run better than 'coolant' alone.
Anyone that has a performance car should be running water wetter, if we run the race car without water wetter it will constantly have the fans on to cool it down, with water wetter it'll only turn the fans on when we are sitting on the start line waiting for the green light. Anyone that has a standard car will find they'll get better performance from the car as it's not suffering hot spots and running cooler.
It's about $35 a bottle, and you add it to distilled water, go to coventrys and get 2 x 15L goon bags of distilled water (about $10)
Drop the fluids, fill with distilled water, get the car hot with the heater on, drop the fluids, repeat twice, then fill with distilled water and add water wetter.
Worth every penny
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Hey Matt...I have always wondered about that stuff. Im tempted to use it now ;D
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ta matt. . never knew of its existance before. will suss it out
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matte your dont just have a nice van you also have some great info wow!. well i knew that water purifying system for the chroming business would come in handy some day! it will save me 10 bucks!!!!!
cheers
ben
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sounds like good stuff MaTTe, thanx for the info,
exellent stuff.
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Big Betty has a 350 in it which i moved back and down so as to to take a bit of weight of steering and i have a 80 series landcruiser radiator with twin thermos and enough room in front for aircon condensor. It doesnt get hot at all. Reason i used this radiator is that diesel cruisers run hot and the radiator does its job well.
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hey clappers, your radiator, is there a difference between diesel & petrol radiators, if so is yours diesel. Also what air-con system did you use in your van ?
George. ;D ??? ;D
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hey dudes just wantn abit ov feed bak on overheatn prob igot an 84 beddy runnin a orig 2.3 only has 85k on da clock sweet az anyway i think my clutch fanz buggerd keep heatn up idleing only wondering if i can make it fixed or rigid non clutch ay!!! or wot i replaced ol radiator 2cor wit a 3cor of a 2.5 toyota diesel look great heaps ov room any ideas u guyz...
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hey clappers, your radiator, is there a difference between diesel & petrol radiators, if so is yours diesel. Also what air-con system did you use in your van ?
George. ;D ??? ;D
hey bro i slapped in dat 2.5 toyota diesel 3 core and removed the electric inter cooler fans dat were attached to the front ov it and its so far so gud apart from anada nigglin prob im takklin ..
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Would it hurt you to actually type in english? I can't understand a word of what you typed and I'd be surprised if anyone else could either. We have members from as far away as Portugal who can make the effort so I see no reason why you can't as well.
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i think thats text language rogue, does my head in, my daughter txt's me the same, cant understand a bloody word guess, im getting old or something !!!!!!!!!!!
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I can understand his post fine, its like how sum people abreviate in tx messages, unfortunately sum people do struggle with understanding it. Kinda like how sum people dont click with maths or other subjects. A lot of the time non english speaking people find it easier to understand because you just sound out the letters eg. tuff vs tough?
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What it is is lazy. For a start it makes it so difficult to read that I don't even bother and I bet others on here are the same so he does himself out of the help that he wants because if he can't be bothered typing properly so it can be understood then I can't be bothered trying to reply.
Secondly it completely screws the search engine on this site because if a helpful answer is given, anybody trying to search on the terms later on using actual English will never find the topic.
Thirdly, no other forum I have ever used tolerates it so I don't see why it should be tolerated here. Computer keyboards have more keys than a numeric keypad on a phone for a reason.
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im with rogue however when i read it out to jill she just laughed and said i was old?
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Im with Rouge and Craig. It shits me >:(
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why did i spend so many years in school learning english just to have this language. mmmmm sorry but i like to spell my words out. Just so you know, i have no idea how to text, i'm lucky i can find my messages. Call me old but. No wonder kids these days can't fill out a job application. God help us all. ;D
George.
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dsgkl ;sodfa[p asfpoop [0pi';kp [pip yuui (translated I agree it takes as much or more effort to look cool as it does to spell the words correctly and when your done spellcheck is just a superfluous key
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Buga! opps I mean "Bugger"
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it's about time - i thought i was the only one that it pissed off so i've kept my opinion to myself!!! it drives me insane and i agree with Rogue - i just glance straight over them and move on.
Good on you Rogue for bringing it up!!
"Or for you other guys"
"fkn growse onya rogue 4 menshin it
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hey dudes just wantn abit ov feed bak on overheatn prob igot an 84 beddy runnin a orig 2.3 only has 85k on da clock sweet az anyway i think my clutch fanz buggerd keep heatn up idleing only wondering if i can make it fixed or rigid non clutch ay!!! or wot i replaced ol radiator 2cor wit a 3cor of a 2.5 toyota diesel look great heaps ov room any ideas u guyz...
ok now all thats out the way lets see if we can help you . So far as i know youv got an over heating problem when its at idle and youv changed to a larger radiator so if it only hapens at idle sounds like yovr water flow is slowing down or going to fast have you chqed your water pump for corrosion or thurmo stat? Apart from our obvious generation gap we do try to help people
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on the subject of texting i had the following message accidently sent to me today ......anybody want to try translate??? Did aFatty Bro,once of da leesh bin wonderin like a mongrel dog Punt ! Can c da ocean and theres a jetty Punt ! ................ WOT THE??? :o :o :o
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hmmmm merlin yep da mind boggles
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hey merlin, after reading that, if i'm correct and understand what you have written, i would say its time to lay off the jack daniels. lol ;D ;D ;D :D
George. oops. hope that was not a classified merlin. lol ;D
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on the subject of texting i had the following message accidently sent to me today ......anybody want to try translate??? Did aFatty Bro,once of da leesh bin wonderin like a mongrel dog Punt ! Can c da ocean and theres a jetty Punt ! ................ WOT THE??? :o :o :o
Did aFatty Bro -- I had sex with a large woman
once of da leesh bin wonderin like a mongrel dog -- once I was allowed out I've been wondering around sniffing out more sex opportunities.
Punt ! -- replace P with C
Can c da ocean and theres a jetty
I'm down by the ocean and there is a jetty there
Punt ! -- replace P with C
Warren
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He sounds almost as much fun as Ben! You should give him a ring back Merlin! ;D
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I did message him back WOT THE and he replied ...and i quote ......sozz dood write msg rong planet . he's not kidding!!!! :o ::)
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And that is the best reason yet why pregnant women should not do drugs.
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heh heh heh WARREN. . . .u da maaan . . U DA MAAAN ;)
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I'll think you'll find , when he said he done a fatty he means a joint or something, and the rest is about his tripping (youst to be social worker)
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YO ROSSIE!! . . U DA MAN, MAN! U DA MAN ;D . . experience, i believe, is the spice of life ;)
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experience is realy hidding from the truth ;)