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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: jimsvan on March 01, 2010, 06:17:25 PM
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http://pbckt.com/sZ.K55 (http://pbckt.com/sZ.K55) i hope the pictures worked
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Sorry Jim but l haven't got a picture showing up
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click the link
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yeah , that might help, she on the road yet?
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no she isnt on the road yet sitting at me mates work shop im hunting down for a van with a v8 setup then ill transfer everything across
was just going to fix the stub axle and everything else but i prefer to pump the money into another v8 van and do transfer swap v8 and everything else into mine i will need brake line because where it snaped up for abit of money but yeh not on the raod yet just looking for a v8 van
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(http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad39/jimsvancard/IMGP0491.jpg)
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just so we can see them in the thread.
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fare out, wonder if the stub was machined and caused it?
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thanks able i dont know how to upload them in the thread but thanks heaps mate not sure whether they where machined but i was lucky i didnt end up on the hwy going home as i do take the hwy from where my mate lives would have fliped the van and posibly injured or killed me but i have to take some measurements for ben and he'll tell me whether they where or not
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The disc caliper plate looks like a CRS conversion kit. They give you the measurements for machining out the discs and specifically state that machining the stubs is bad news. Wonder if the person who did the conversion got lazy and just decided to machine the stub anyway as it was off the van.
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im think it must have been machined. its the outer bearing what you would have to machine if you did.
i remember taking the outer bearing from my disc brake conversion into bursons because it was that close to falling to pieces. i tried to match it up with something and i rember finding something that just needed the stub axel machined that little bit to fit.
only thing is i already have the smaller stub axels (early ones) that are 7/16th smaller than later model ones.
so my guess would have been machined down furthur to fit standard holden i think, bearings.
i will have some stub axels for you jimmy un machined if you need.
would still like the measurements
cheers
ben
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do us all a favor jimsvan and please get to the bottom of this.
i will be putting the crs kit on the front of mine and i will be having my kids i the back...
i really do not want to make the same mistake of the person that set yours up...
your bloody lucky it went when it did! that could have been a royal mess for both you and the beddy. i would be putting a tatts ticket on this week if i was you ;)
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there,s a link 2 the disk brake teck debate from a previous time,
http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=1454.0 (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=1454.0)
about machining stubs, i personally think its a disaster waiting 2 happen machineing stub axles. .
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hey mate, doesn't look too good.
Clean the grease off with a rag and some petrol and then take a photo of the stub where it has sheared off, so we can see it it has fatigued or just broken. Do the same with the other half of the stub.
Also that door doesn't loo too bad, you should be able to fix that no worries, just pull the guard out a bit first and it'll be fine.
It also looks like it has broken the caliper, is this the case? if so what sort of calipers are they?
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i will do that when im at me mates workshop again clean grease and take more photos i have to take messurements too will be there this weekend as i want to go to the wreckers and get a hq stub axle and calipar and get the van fixed so i can bring it back to mine im still worried even when i fix it afraid its going to happen again i might even check the other side too want to fix it so i can bring it back to mine or if not see if i can use one of me mates hoist in his workshop and start my v8 conversion as i just brought a v8 for it whooooo hoooooo this is where the fun begins and headaches i guess lol but it gets easy only cos i have all you guys on here who have been through these headaches lol thanks guys lol
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im still worried even when i fix it afraid its going to happen again
You could get them crack-tested. An engine reconditioner would do this for you.
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does anyone now anywhere in melb where u can get the stub axles machined or whatever needs machining i want to do whatever so it wont happen again
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you need to get the disc rotor machined to the size of the bedford stub bearings - NOT the other way round.
This is likely to have happened because the stub was machined.. as you may have noticed from the posts above, this is a big no no.
but in terms of getting machining done, most brake joints, and all engineering works can do this for you.
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does anyone now anywhere in melb where u can get the stub axles machined or whatever needs machining i want to do whatever so it wont happen again
jim stop. read through all the brake posts on here before you do anything. understand what you need to do before you go and buy hq stub axels, bedford stub axels, bearings. it will save you a lot of time and money. there are people on here that have done what your about to do/fix.
dont ask questions until you have read everything on here cause all this is already explained in older posts. use the search function. and have a look in the categories in the main forum bit.
ben
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will be there this weekend as i want to go to the wreckers and get a hq stub axle and calipar
If you get an HQ stub axle you will have to convert the other side as well as by the look of the photos you have Bedford stubs with an HQ caliper conversion kit. HQ stubs don't fit straight up and you will have a lot more work to make them fit. They are also smaller stub axles and in light of the fact that you have already had one stub axle snap you should be trying to keep them as large as possible. Stick with the bedford ones. Perhaps even try and find the larger later model ones and then just get the discs machined.
The instructions and measurements for setting up the discs and bearings are in the 'Technical Documentation' section. You can find this under 'Downloads' in the Main Menu to the left. There is also a post that I started a long time ago with the bearing part numbers listed for the later model stub axle. Have a bit of a search. You should find it easily.
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Hey Jim, we have just finished doing our disc brake conversion just b4 xmas, the only thing we did to the stubs was to polish them b4 moving forward. We sourced most of our parts from a place near you, castlemaine rod shop, and what we did not get from them, we got from a supplier here in brissy, but only after reading the posts here and getting some good advice. B4 I drive my van out of the workshop, I will be getting my engineer to sign off on all modifications. No inspection - no drive. I dont want someones injuries or death on my head.
George............
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yeh i have heard of caistleman rod shop they have some good stuff there my mate gets stuff for his blown 350 chev ute what sort of things did you do i wont be machining my stub axles i spoke to my mechanic and two other machinics and they said its bad news your creating yourelf problems i might ring caistleman rod shop and see what they say or what they have be interested in knowing what u did tho bedfordcrazy
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did you have a look at the crs hq instructions from the download section?
http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=6&Itemid=27 (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=6&Itemid=27)
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thanks alot able that makes so much more sense now thanks so much