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General Category => CF Bedford Chat => Topic started by: kimbosound on January 19, 2010, 07:58:33 PM
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Hi all, i saw a post a while ago regarding wheel spacers. In order to get my beddy truck registered i have to get the rear brakes serviced, this will no doubt cost a bob or 2 so when it comes to replacing the diff after rego with a high speed version, i am planning to do what i did to one of my previous beddy vans and have a 9 inch center grafted into it and retaining my axle housings and axles and brakes. As the front end has HQ disc set up i want to have HQ on the rear as well....[more choices in mag wheel set up] Is there an adapter plate on the market that i can bolt on over the beddy pattern and have HQ stud pattern? i have heard of people running these on the front but it places stress on the stub axle....i dont see this as a problem on the rear? Any help will be much apreciated. I have attached a pic of what i am looking for
Unless of course someone here in WA has a high speed diff for sale that will bolt straight in. Freight from the east negates buying one from over there.
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I would like to find some adapters also.
It's almost impossible to find rims with the bedford pattern here.
I have seen that some people manufacture these plates but if there were some already made and certified that would be much better.
If not, I will have to have some made in the future,
A nice set of rims gives the van a completely different look.
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anyone know if they are legal in all states?
and are they problematic in any way????
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There only problematic if the quality is low... they can break.
Cheap cast aluminum spacers probably made in China:
(http://www.wheeladapter.com/images/cheap_spacers-large.jpg)
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gee thats a bit scary huh:
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yup
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thankyou for the heads up on the 176 issue! not putting those on with my kids in the back.
what is the opinion of spacers made by Australian engineers? or is spacer's generally considered a less then safe option?
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There has been a lot of debate on spacers, the bottom line is get them made by a trusted engineer, don't by ones pre made. I ran these on my Bedford, Bedford stud to Holden stud, no problems at all and my rear end carries a lot of weight. The centre of the spacer has to have a flange to sit into the rim. And if you want to go the extra distance you can also get the engineneer to grove out the outer surface of the drum by a few mils and flange the space to fit this as well. Soild steel is the way to go.................. Bas
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I know that in vic they are illegal,what is the 176 issue able?
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I know that in vic they are illegal,what is the 176 issue able?
can you not see the pick above?
it has a pic of a badly broken spacer and it has 176 cast into it.
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i need glasses :-[
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im sure ben can wip you up a fiberglass pair?
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There's always a battle going on about Cast vs Machined parts,
What the specialists say about spacers is that a quality machined spacer is much stronger than a cheap cast spacer from china.
I agree.
They also say to keep the number of studs the same, for safety reasons.
I will have some made in the future so I will be able to choose the the PCD size.
It will depend on the rims I am able to get at the time, heavy duty 4x4 rims probably.
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Hi Outriding
That looks like a nice, relatively standard, facelift SWB CF you have there. Would you mind cruising over to this thread and doing a quick couple of measurements for me? I'd really appreciate it.
http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=1725.0 (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=1725.0)
Thanks very much if you're able.
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Spacers weather it be slip on or bolt on are illegal in all states of Australia. Code of Practice clearly states this so any engineer that says otherwise is probably not worth visiting.
Problem with spacers is the extra load that is put on the bearings and axles.
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I personaly, think it puts less load on the bearings than a deep dish set of mags. ;)
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spacers are one thing, thread adapters are completely another..
spacers are the same as rims with a wide backing, the load is the same, and in many cases probably less than wide rims.
cast adapters definately aren't worth the money spent, i have seen cars that have sustained heavy damage to body work and suspension from failed adapters
Machined would be better, but for the effort, cost, and knowledge of safety - i'd be spending the money getting the axles changed, or stubs setup to take the pattern i am looking for..
but thats just me..
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i agree matte.
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brian (bed767)
in 1997 adr rules were made for vehicles australia wide that states wheel spacer, adaptors are not to be used. By the way the bolt heads in the photo with 6 radial lines are the 2nd. highest high tensile bolts made and are certainly strong enough for this aplication.Ive worked for T.R.W. for 21 years in auto supply components.
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i thought spacers were ok as long as they were bolted 2 the axle n drum?
ive got a mate that has a 1948 chev ute that is going 2 get some made up
he,s got 2 custom 1948 chev utes actually, im thinkin of buying 1 of them off him.
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Its the code of practice you need to worry about, the blue folder that every decent engineer should have. It says no to spacers for the reason I gave above.
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Hi Guys and especially the guy asking about adaptors/spacers. I have had a set made to adapt Bedford stud pattern to Holden pattern. They were machined from a very high grade alumminium
(drift car racers use them), so would assume that they are more than strong enough!!
Must admit that I haven't used them as I am selling our Beddie :'( Nothing has been done to it for the last 6 months. Car racing has taken over!!!! Cheers Brian O
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:((
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id never use either
their a cheap way out of doin a proper job.