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Title: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on January 11, 2010, 03:12:19 PM
Hey Guys, I found this on line and thought I would post it. How not to treat your beddy, these owners should be hung from my car hoist. ;D
Regards
           George...........
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: grandad on January 11, 2010, 04:16:18 PM
i like the look of the twin headlights in the second one
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: BlackBedford on January 11, 2010, 10:38:16 PM
Here are 2 of my favorite dead Beddie photos:


(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/blackbedford/bedfordepave2.jpg)


(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/blackbedford/dead-ca.jpg)
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Abodator on January 11, 2010, 11:33:19 PM
More photos of yellow bedford. "Before and after".
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: able on January 12, 2010, 02:17:31 AM
mmmmmmmm. what wheels are on that last beddy pic? do you have to mod to get those fat boys on?

or am i looking at a rare 4x4 beddy?
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: outriding on January 12, 2010, 02:38:58 AM
I would say it is a 4x4
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Abodator on January 12, 2010, 05:04:26 AM
mmmmmmmm. what wheels are on that last beddy pic? do you have to mod to get those fat boys on?

or am i looking at a rare 4x4 beddy?

Look like on the photos.
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Warren on January 12, 2010, 08:20:45 AM
More photos of yellow bedford. "Before and after".


Looks more like "After and Before"  :o

Warren
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: rossie on January 12, 2010, 08:30:25 AM
that first one is what use to happen after a good night down the beach ;D ;D but now the wife hides the keys ??? ???
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: ben on February 14, 2010, 04:43:59 AM
hey warren tony from monbulk we were gunna go visit built that green van.. it sold for 38K!! ive since been out to his workshop 3 times.. nice setup.

ben
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Dano on February 14, 2010, 06:24:10 AM
different van Benny...this the 38k one
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 14, 2010, 05:29:40 PM
Hey All, I recon it is one cool looking ride, is it a real 4x4 or suspension lift ? personally I recon holden should go into production, and build them, with all the latest technology, I would go into debt and buy one. oh yeh. Does anyone have anymore pics inside and under ?
Regards
          George................ ;D ;D
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: restoreid on February 14, 2010, 07:03:53 PM
It's got a diff under the front Must b a 4x4
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: ben on February 14, 2010, 09:28:53 PM
hey marty, its not for sale for 38K it sold for 38K.. Chating to tony he says the person who bought it said there is nothing out there like it.. you just cant buy it thats why he offered the 38k to tony, tony said well if your offering 38 its time for it to go lol. sounds just like danny rileys story of how he sold his van lol


im not sure but i would have to say that this would have to be the most expensive bedford sold ever for 38K.. anyone know of one sold for more???

cheers ben
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 15, 2010, 09:02:52 AM
Ok Restoreid, now that I have enhanced the pic I can see the diff under the front.
George...
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: restoreid on February 15, 2010, 02:24:39 PM
Wish my camper was 4x4 that would make it soo much more fun
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 15, 2010, 02:44:36 PM
Hi Reid, how hard really would it be ? could you not sit a beddy body on a 4x4 rolling chasais. I know there is a lot more to alignment and so on, but in theory, right frame, am i naive ?????? ;D ??? ;D
George.......................
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: rossie on February 15, 2010, 03:02:02 PM
It can't be that hard. remember the old holdens that used l think a early landcruiser chassis,
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 15, 2010, 03:14:53 PM
Hey, imagine this, a beddy body sitting on a 2006 100series landcruiser chasais. The look of the classic beddy shell with the technology of today, what a ride that would be. When I win lotto that will be the first thing I build. I have always had the dream of a 4x4 van, money is the only reason i'm not driving one..mmmmmm
George................
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: grandad on February 15, 2010, 03:24:18 PM
Hey, imagine this, a beddy body sitting on a 2006 100series landcruiser chasais. The look of the classic beddy shell with the technology of today, what a ride that would be. When I win lotto that will be the first thing I build. I have always had the dream of a 4x4 van, money is the only reason i'm not driving one..mmmmmm
George................
same here even whent as far as mesuring up my hilux but to narrow cruser or patrol would be great
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 15, 2010, 03:30:18 PM
I have a 100 cruiser, my daily driver, and if I could combine the 2 I would, and one day i will. I can't be poor forever surely lol  ;D one day...yeh ;D ;D
George.......
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Warren on February 16, 2010, 08:03:22 PM
From memory ShaneJ was toying with a GQ patrol to go under a beddy, I think they had the same wheel base.

Then it would be registered as a rebodied Nissan :D

Warren
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: MaTTe on February 16, 2010, 09:41:00 PM
i was looking into the idea of a 4wd chassis under a bedford, and the GQs are a competent chassis- However, if you have a look on the net, you'll find quite a few cases of the chassis cracking, and not just around welds, some are in very dangerous places, and not necessarily from abusive off roading.
This changed my mind instantly on a patrol chassis, a cruiser might be ok, but in reality the f100/250 may not be as comfortable, or as capable, but it's tough as nails and how heavy would your 4wding needs be in a bedford? anything too severe will be damaging the body with the twisting forces of really rough terrain, the body would have to be strengthened all over. I wouldn't want to be scratching the paint going thru trees, i'd more use it to cruise up and down the beach, and go through the desert.. I don't mind sand and a bit of water, but for deep water crossings, you'll be needing much better seals too..
A bit of food for thought..
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 17, 2010, 12:07:56 PM
I agree Matte, after spending all hat doe, you would only want to do it once. Call me goofy, but I would be happy cruising around home just to show off. lol is that vane yeh lol  ;D oh well, when I get $50,000-00 spare.  ;D :o ::)
George.................
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: rossie on February 18, 2010, 08:44:41 AM
Got on to the craigs list in the states and they got some realy cool 4x4 vans, chev and fords. There is a chev with 350/350, masive wheels, and the body looks the same length as a lwb beddy. the mind started going. $6800 they wanted, allow approx. $5000 to get it here. Convert the two togeather, about 10 slabs and hey presto ::) ::) It could be done and it would proberbly work out cheaper than tring to find the parts here cos the wheels and tyres would have to be worth $4000 here....  Any way craigslist, Losangles and type in 4x4van
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 18, 2010, 08:57:32 AM
The yanks have been building 4x4 vans for years, here in oz we just have no imagination. But your right it would be cheaper to get one and swap out the bodies. What we need is someone to get serious and put together a new VANCRAFT business, a one stop van shop. But everyone wants a bolt on / off industry, oh well, its a wonder we have a hotrod culture at all.
George................
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: rossie on February 18, 2010, 09:04:48 AM
There still is a few of the old school custom shops left, we got a couple of good ones here in Ballarat,a mate Hodgey does some grouse work. If its out in the left field he'll do it
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 18, 2010, 09:36:33 AM
True there are those individuals, but businesses they are dying. I had a mate who was into the off the wall stuff, he did all the custom thats on my van now, but the big C got him  a few yrs ago, so finding someone to finish his work has been a struggle. I am looking at this guy on the gold coast, so if he pans out I will post his details for those who need custom work done. I have a mate at redcliff who does a lot of custom fabrication, but thats about it. We need a vancraft in every state of oz  ;D
George...................
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: MaTTe on February 18, 2010, 08:16:20 PM
hey george, that ford van i would say is running a f100/250 chassis.. from what i've researched so far, the f series chassis is the most straight forward conversion in terms of dimensions, it just comes down to securing the body on the new chassis.
The Fseries can be quite capable off road, they just use 'old' technology(depending on the year) 1970-1990 chassis seem to be the best fit, and they're reasonably priced so you wouldn't mind butchering one..

When i've got some cash and time spare, i'll look into it further..
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 18, 2010, 11:01:21 PM
Hi Matte, whom ever gets the money first, and starts first can keep the other up to date, fair enough ?  ;D
George..........
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: able on February 18, 2010, 11:06:57 PM
can you guys stop it??? your giving me idea's i cant afford!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 19, 2010, 08:21:52 AM
Hey Able, we may not be able to afford one, but we can certainly dream,  ;D I'm so addicted, I have had my dream 4x4 bedford designed for years. If I live long enough I will build it. Ok no more teasing 4x4 van pics. lol  ;D ;D ;D
George........
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: able on February 19, 2010, 10:33:29 AM
LA LA LA LA LA NOT LOOKING!  :D
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 19, 2010, 03:12:40 PM
ok able no more van pics for you
George ;D ;D ;D ;D hohohohoho
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Bedfordcrazy on February 19, 2010, 03:15:53 PM
mutt cutts just for you able, heres a good idea for ables van. lol dare you to build it...lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D oh well beats being misarable...
George......
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: stumpy1972uk1 on February 26, 2010, 07:18:50 AM
More photos of yellow bedford. "Before and after".

that van belonged to a guy thats still in the van scene over here , only he owns a mercedes sprinter van now. the cf was on a 4x4 chassis i beleive , and has recently been scrapped , he wouldnt sell it.
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Rocket on May 10, 2010, 09:06:40 AM
 Did the dumbest thing with my beast. Daughter said she had a post in her yard that her & her hubby could not pull out with their car, so I volunteered to attack it with my beddy.Hooked a long tow rope onto it & started to pull. Daughter yells out that it wasn't moving so as I have a grunty 350 chev I give it a bit more. Daughter calls again that the beddy is a bit gutless because the post still is not moving. Pride gets me so I use a little bit more throttle & all of a sudden post gives. Well it sounded like a gun had gone off inside my van & to my dismay one of my back windows is on the floor behind my drivers seat with the offending post. Now there is very little damage done to van other than a new laminated rear window but jeeeeeezz there was a lol & people rolling on the ground everywhere.  DUMB stunt.
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Rogue Trooper on May 10, 2010, 09:26:24 AM
I feel your pain. I was moving the drivers seat from the back of the van where it has been sitting to the front so I could work out the correct location for the handbrake lever on the weekend. As I was swinging the seat around in the back I didn't allow room for one of the seat mounts I had left bolted to the bottom of the seat and it hit the edge of the window rubber with enough force that it cracked the side window.

Not as dramatic as yours but still a new piece of glass required. It really pisses me off fixing one thing and breaking another.  >:(
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: ben on May 10, 2010, 09:56:57 AM
spewen.. we all do dumb things.. hmmmm
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Warren on May 10, 2010, 12:51:34 PM
spewen.. we all do dumb things.. hmmmm

Don't worry Benny - you still hold the Title for the "Dumbest Thing Done"

Warren
 
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: jimsvan on May 10, 2010, 02:40:36 PM
that would be wicked fwd bedford love it you would be able to go anywhere i'd love to do it if i had the time
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: ben on May 10, 2010, 05:06:44 PM
Quote
spewen.. we all do dumb things.. hmmmm

Don't worry Benny - you still hold the Title for the "Dumbest Thing Done"

Warren
 

wahoo!!!
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: vintageholden on November 03, 2010, 12:44:33 AM
i was looking into the idea of a 4wd chassis under a bedford, and the GQs are a competent chassis- However, if you have a look on the net, you'll find quite a few cases of the chassis cracking, and not just around welds, some are in very dangerous places, and not necessarily from abusive off roading.
This changed my mind instantly on a patrol chassis, a cruiser might be ok, but in reality the f100/250 may not be as comfortable, or as capable, but it's tough as nails and how heavy would your 4wding needs be in a bedford? anything too severe will be damaging the body with the twisting forces of really rough terrain, the body would have to be strengthened all over. I wouldn't want to be scratching the paint going thru trees, i'd more use it to cruise up and down the beach, and go through the desert.. I don't mind sand and a bit of water, but for deep water crossings, you'll be needing much better seals too..
A bit of food for thought..

what about a hq 1 tonner chassis
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: tazinnz on November 16, 2010, 09:11:32 AM
There used to be a company in nz in the south island that was building 4x4 bedfords and sending them over the ditch worth trying to find out
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: gazza on November 17, 2010, 05:41:32 PM
WELL!! MY STORY IS i hit a house with my van i was building my dads house ( im a carpenter) my van was sitting on a slope i got in the back to get some naills i felt a funny feeling,,,, i noticed the van was rolling backwards so i paniked into action and jumped out the back and tried to stop it by pushing it my dad tried to help but we could,nt hold it so  we jumped out of the way just in time, to see the back doors peal back flat with a crunch ,, all i had to do was pull the f#$@%ng handbrake on DAW!!!
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: BlackBedford on November 18, 2010, 08:38:48 AM
Story 1
I was helping Malcom ( a CF owner from way back) move house as I have a car trailer.
I backed down his driveway and had the trailer parked in the carport. As the drivers side was near the fence I had to climb out the passenger side. As I was getting out of the drivers seat I bumped the gearstick and the van rolled back under the carport. The problem was that the van was about 50mm higher than the underside of the carport. Luckily the carport had a bit of flex in it so there was not too much damage. I had to let my tyres down to get out. Of course there were spectators, who all thought the look on my face was priceless.

A funny story about the same carport is that a another mate moved into the same house. He had an EB Falcon that wouldn't idle when cold. The wife got into it and just as she was putting it into gear it started to stall, so she pumped the accelerator and it got stuck on full open as the auto settled in drive. She launched the car through the fence, across the back yard, and into a tree. The car was write off. Try explaining that one.
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: John Abbott on November 18, 2010, 09:37:39 AM
"Idles like a pig luv...But it goes like a bat outa hell  around 7000 rpm" :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: pickmeup on November 18, 2010, 02:22:14 PM
MMM try turning right on to Roberts rd Subiaco and going straight ahead into a traffic light control box at 50klms an hour while 2 cops are following you on motorbikes. Bloody steering knuckle! NOT HAPPY JAN! >:(
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Banksx2 on November 18, 2010, 10:12:36 PM
Note to self:
When getting playful around a wet corner and the back end breaks loose do NOT remove your foot from the accelerator no matter how good an idea it seems at the time.

You whiplash, put a small ding in the tree and a somewhat larger one in the front end... :'(

And the radiator springs a leak...
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: obsession on November 18, 2010, 10:18:16 PM
MMM try turning right on to Roberts rd Subiaco and going straight ahead into a traffic light control box at 50klms an hour while 2 cops are following you on motorbikes. Bloody steering knuckle! NOT HAPPY JAN! >:(
no tree jumping out  ::)
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Banksx2 on November 18, 2010, 10:41:05 PM
MMM try turning right on to Roberts rd Subiaco and going straight ahead into a traffic light control box at 50klms an hour while 2 cops are following you on motorbikes. Bloody steering knuckle! NOT HAPPY JAN! >:(

Slingshotting through a roundabout when THUMP, the passenger side front drops a bit, the steering wheel locks and I wind up diagonally in front of a bottle shop with straight-on parking. Bloody disintegrating ball joint!  Front flare dropped onto the wheel and locked it solid facing straight forward.  >:( Nice loud wheels-locked screeching sound though - got shoppers attention  ;D

Then when I'm looking for a phone and a tow truck (pre-mobile days) the other guys who got out from work just after me drove right past and figured I must have been really thirsty to park so badly in front of the bottlo... ::) One of them times...
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Banksx2 on November 18, 2010, 11:13:45 PM
MMM try turning right on to Roberts rd Subiaco and going straight ahead into a traffic light control box at 50klms an hour while 2 cops are following you on motorbikes. Bloody steering knuckle! NOT HAPPY JAN! >:(
no tree jumping out  ::)

Didn't really jump - just gave a little shudder when I hit and casually dropped a few leaves onto the bonnet, which could now catch them as it was just the right shape...
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: gazza on November 20, 2010, 08:39:12 AM
awe the storys i can tell 28 years of bedford ownership heaps,,,,,,ive lost a rear wheel,,,,,,ive over loaded the van and bent rear axle 4 inches ,,, ive over loaded trailer and tow hitch releast from tow ball caught in door skin and lifted rear wheels off the road 6 inches (THAT GOT MY ATTENTION) IVE lost my headlights at night on the highway (bloody relay switch) had to sleep on side of road untill light ,,,ive saled through traffic lights backwards after trying to stop quick after new chev diff installed big back drums work well ah! the memorys
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: gazza on November 20, 2010, 08:57:10 AM
that would be wicked fwd bedford love it you would be able to go anywhere i'd love to do it if i had the time
you guy,s do know they did actually make 4w drive bedfords and electric ones as well look on e_bay you can see brocures may be get the specs to build one,,,,,,
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Dano on November 22, 2010, 07:52:34 PM
hey gazza those stories actually reminded me of a few similar, especially going through T/light backwards, GO  the big drums!!...

RE4x4 check out my gallery!
Title: Re: How Not to Treat A Bedford Van
Post by: Shazbot on February 09, 2014, 05:34:59 PM
This Beddy came for a visit to Australind today. Looks taller in person. 383 stroker chev . He wanted to buy ours and we wanted to buy his!! No sales today   ;D
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