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Technical => Electrics, Audio and Security => Topic started by: TomB on August 13, 2009, 06:27:12 PM
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As per my previous post (CF Cab Chassis) I am seriously thinking of buying a CF350 cab chassis. It is currently unreg and on a farm. When I drove it around the indicators don't work at all and I immediately thought of the flasher can. I searched around under the dash but couldn't find it.
Anyone know where the flasher can is located?
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take off the rear plastic panel on dash its in there me thinks :D
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Look under the dash panel where it supports the steering column, poke your finger up through the opening and you should find the canister ;)
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Thanks guys, I'll have a look when I'm up there next. I am hoping it's just the flasher can busted or missing as I don't fancy trying hand signals all the way home (about 200kms).
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u might find 2 flasher cans in it. one for hazzard an one for indicators
easyest way, get the 2 wires that goto the flasher can , an short them together..
now when you use the indicators they should only stay on..
easyest way i know if its the flasher can or something else test..
I am hoping it's just the flasher can busted or missing as I don't fancy trying hand signals all the way home (about 200kms).
once i had to tie 2 pieces of rope to the wipers, one for me to pull (driver), an then one for the miss's to pull them back.
(got us home..)
(never give me rope an say it cant be done..lol)
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before you go wrenching you neck under the dash looking for the indicator flasher i suggest you check the fuse first ;D
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before you go wrenching you neck under the dash looking for the indicator flasher i suggest you check the fuse first ;D
fuse 2 from the door for hazzard an fuse 5 from the door for the indicators
great thinking hunterbynature why look for the worst when it could be the simplest
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Re the fuses, there doesn't appear to be a proper fuse box. I noticed a bunch of fuses hanging down from under the dash just to the right of the steering column. Just blade fuses with no labels.
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Re the fuses, there doesn't appear to be a proper fuse box. I noticed a bunch of fuses hanging down from under the dash just to the right of the steering column. Just blade fuses with no labels.
pull each one out , one at a time a check to make sure there not blown then replace them back
sounds like a mod or something, mine are all glass fuses
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blade fuses are not standard. so its probably a bodge job. 71- 74 beddys didnt come with fuses standard. in my black van i pulled the bodge job out and replaced it with a 76 onward wiring loom. much better..
ben
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Where should the proper fuse box be located?
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underneath the dash to the right. it usually has a surround where it fits in.
ben
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i have to ask this, what motor are you running so we could know routhly where things could be?
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tomb 71 - 74 didnt come with a fuse box so you may not have one..
i know its scary.
ben
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I haven't bought the Bedford yet. It has a 173 holden motor, and I am trying to ascertain the year. The rego papers say it is a 1981 model, however it has the metal grill and round headlights. The prefix of the engine number suggests 74-76 According to info re holden engines (assuming it is the original engine.)
I seems to drive okay and I would prefer to drive it home (if I can get the indicators to work). I am also trying to ascertain the year of manufacture in the hope that I can put it on historic rego (30 years or older) as I don't need a ute 24/7 and drive a sedan as my daily driver.
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how much do you know about wiring?
in other words if we told you the type of lead to hunt down, etc..
eg extend each indicator wire left/right, an a positive.. touch the positive to the wire an it will light, so you touch it then take it off, touch it, etc.. need a passanger(hence extending the wires.)
cause im a master of a bodge job, if you want to get it home..
how many left an right turns is there?
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g,day tom if you like i can come and have a look at it for you
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Thanks for the offers of help guys. I can rewire it ( I am a technician by trade), but the truck is a 2 and a half hour drive away from where I live and if I get a 1 day permit to drive it, I don't want to spend half the day trying to sort out the wiring.
I suppose I can always resort to hand signals.
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Tom
why not make a tow board, you know a set of tail lights on a plank of wood and hang from the back of the van, normally they plug into the towing vehicles trailer plug, but in youre case you could make a box up with a fuse, indicator can and switch and some aligator clips to attach it to the battery, you could even add brake lights , make it all up, then when you drive to the van just clip on to power and away you go.
Have the box sitting next to you and just flick a switch to turn or brake.
Then sort it properly when you get home
Warren McOutsidetheSqaure
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not a bad idea warren..
i have done many drives home without indicators. no its not very safe. just be very careful!!!!
ben
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Vouch for the above!!!
no indicators = not so safe :-[
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Hey there,
My indicator stalk has finally busted and was wondering if anyone would be able to tell me where (or which page) to look in the manual. Wiring diagrams confuse me :-\ Or if anyone can tell me, from looking at the picture, what function each color wire corresponds to. All I know is the horn wires, not sure about the others. I can then re-wire into either switches or another stalk from somehwere. Am I right in presuming that all the green wires are earth?
Cheers!
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Colour code off the top of my head is this:-
Blue (no stripe) is + from your head light switch
Blue red stripe is low beam and goes to your fuse box
Blue white stripe is high beam and also goes to your fuse box
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bloody computers posted before i was finished
Green brown stripe is indicator common and goes to your indicator flasher
Green red stripe is your indicate left? and goes to your fuse box
Green white stripe is your indicate right? and goes to your fuse box
Purple black stripe is your horn and goes to your horn
note left and right and high and low beam could be the wrong way around is so just swap them over, I'm only doing this from memory for clarification consult the cf manual or give me time to check.
Most british vehicles from this era have the same colour code so as long as the indicator stick you get mounts up then the wiring colour code is usually the same.
Hope this helps
Cheers Jeff
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Thanks Jeff, muchly appreciated! This gives me a great start, I didn't know which page in the manual to look at. or which wiring diagram specifically rather. This will help now to determine which diagram to look at ;D Then i can have indicators again! woohoo
Cheers, mate.. I'll let you know if i get stuck
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MarkB
Does your beddy have inline fuses or a fuse block ?
Most of the wiring diagrams have a label stating which vans they are for - early inline fuse/ late fuse block
But I think the wiring for the ignition switch/indicator is all much the same
See this thread (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=933.0)for a list of wiring diagrams.
Warren
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looking at the pictures of it in the gallery it should have a fuse block, looks as though its a 1978 to 1980 model.
Cheers Jeff
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it's a shame your buying the ute in SA. in VIC no one uses indicators anyway so it dosn't matter if ya have em or not!
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Yep she definately has a fuse block..so i am good with the wiring now, thanks heaps for your help guys. muchos gracias ;D
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MarkB
I recently fitted new stalk from a mini same colour code you just need to connect the Bedford plug to the indicator stork
Joe
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Hey Joe, do you have any pics of your mini indicator stalk fitted into your van. Also do you have any data on the stalk, ie: mini model, year, so on. ???
Regards
George.............
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The original mini, or a mark 3 landrover
http://shop.ebay.com.au/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m38.l1313&_nkw=indicator+mini&_sacat=See-All-Categories (http://shop.ebay.com.au/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3984.m38.l1313&_nkw=indicator+mini&_sacat=See-All-Categories)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LAND-ROVER-SERIES-3-INDICATOR-MAIN-BEAM-SWITCH-STALK_W0QQitemZ290391839284QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item439cb3d234 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LAND-ROVER-SERIES-3-INDICATOR-MAIN-BEAM-SWITCH-STALK_W0QQitemZ290391839284QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item439cb3d234)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Series-3-Indicator-Horn-Dip-Switch_W0QQitemZ310182707085QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4838547f8d (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Series-3-Indicator-Horn-Dip-Switch_W0QQitemZ310182707085QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4838547f8d)
you need to rewire because the plug is different, but the wires are the same colour,and so is the colum mount
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George
Your mate Rob the Bedford man a Logan sell new indicators already converted for about $70 but you have to give him your plug for his next conversion
Joe
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Thanks joe, I am going out to see rob next weekend, so will ask him about them, have a look. Is there no problem this site can't solve. yeh ;D :D ::)
Regards
George..................
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I've been systematically replacing all frigging crap lucas electrics with Bosch parts. The indicator stalk I've replaced with one from an early falcon, they also used the same one in early ford amubulances. The difference is incredible! I actually have WHITE headlights rather than lame yellow.
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camden you should be running relays.. dont trust mr lucas!
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I'm running relays for just about everything! Everytime I replace a lucas part with bosch, I take a blow-torch to the lucas bit! Mwooooahahahaha!
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I can't for the he'll of me get my indicators to flash at the correct speed ... One is way too fast and the other doesn't actually dim all the way before it flashes again... I've checked all lamps/ wiring that I can get too and put In a new flasher.... They are doing the same thing regardless of whether the flasher can is in or pulled out... Hazards work fine.... Anybody got any ideas?
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Gidday Jon, I don't know what year your van is, mine is a 76 and has 2 flasher cans, 1 for the indicators and 1 for the hazzards. A couple of things to try is unplug the flasher can and make a wire to join both wires of the flasher can together then try the indicators, this will cause the indicators to come on and not flash. This will tell you if the switch and bulbs and bulb earths are all ok. If this test works and the indicators light then the fault lies with the flasher. If not then check for power in the green wire to the flasher can, if this is ok next check the indicator stalk for continuity between the light green with a brown stripe wire and the green red stripe wire when you turn one way and thelight green brown stripe and green white stripe when you turn the other way. Other things to look at are the bulb earth connections, if these are bad or weak then this can cause them to flash fast. All of this is assuming you have factory wiring loom that has not been messed with or colours changed. and also assumes you have 2 pin flasher cans. And is how my 76 factory loom was connected. Remember to look for the second flasher always catches a few out.
Oh and one other thing to check is your hazzard switch, mine used to give me trouble when I switched it off, it wouldn't reconnect the indicators.
Hope this helps
cheers Jeff
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sounds about right:)
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Gidday Jon, I don't know what year your van is, mine is a 76 and has 2 flasher cans, 1 for the indicators and 1 for the hazzards. A couple of things to try is unplug the flasher can and make a wire to join both wires of the flasher can together then try the indicators, this will cause the indicators to come on and not flash. This will tell you if the switch and bulbs and bulb earths are all ok. If this test works and the indicators light then the fault lies with the flasher. If not then check for power in the green wire to the flasher can, if this is ok next check the indicator stalk for continuity between the light green with a brown stripe wire and the green red stripe wire when you turn one way and thelight green brown stripe and green white stripe when you turn the other way. Other things to look at are the bulb earth connections, if these are bad or weak then this can cause them to flash fast. All of this is assuming you have factory wiring loom that has not been messed with or colours changed. and also assumes you have 2 pin flasher cans. And is how my 76 factory loom was connected. Remember to look for the second flasher always catches a few out.
Oh and one other thing to check is your hazzard switch, mine used to give me trouble when I switched it off, it wouldn't reconnect the indicators.
Hope this helps
cheers Jeff
I could have read this before... it would have saved me some time....
The Hazard switch is broken at the back and bad contact didn't let the indicators work... that and I also changed the relay (can as you guys call it).
So is that true that a Mini switch will fit? In that case it will be much easier to use find one! :D :D