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Title: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Kirk on June 30, 2009, 01:57:35 PM
Ok guys, well i got the van to Brakes plus, who have done a quote on getting my brakes all done...and man am i screwed:( But i cant afford to rely on people who offer me a good price wether its friends or strangers....3 times ive moved this van only to not get what i expected, and from friend to foe...so its across the board.

Anyway, the most expensive item was a new Master brake cylinder thingy....$1200 thats NEW not Recond.

Im sure everyone is gunna know cheaper places, and better prices and such and such, but at this stage im all out of faith....so if anyone has brand new or atleast reconditioned brake parts for a drum CF 76 SWB van, possibly you decided on disc and never used it or something along those lines, then please let me know, preferablly Victoria...

Yes i know everyone else goes disc brakes....but as i said....i cant go thru all that again...im barelly hangin on as is.

Cheers

Kirk.
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Marky on June 30, 2009, 02:44:32 PM
My master cylinder cost $200 to re-sleeve...same if not better than new

they put new sleeve in works great...dont get ripped off
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: able on June 30, 2009, 03:26:21 PM
disk brakes on front are as easy as picking up disks, calipers from the wreckers and ordering the kit from the rod shop...

didn't someone mention its cheaper to take in your old drum brake shoes and get them recovered then telling them they are bedford and ordering new ones?

no way in hell would i pay that much for the booster... go the re sleeve!

Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Marky on June 30, 2009, 04:31:44 PM
Getting ya brake shoes .......Its called Rebonded

Cheaper than new ones Fe sure...
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: John Abbott on June 30, 2009, 05:25:52 PM
Well just by coincidence, i have been getting some quotes on new brake parts for my old rwd 1980 mazda 626. Now get this...I ring up a brake parts supplier in perth, and say i would like a price on a left and right wheel cyl for my rear drums on my mazda (they come back with $160.00 for the two.(shit ! i said that seems way to high) So i call into a Veale automotive parts shop just around the corner from me.."Yeah mate" we have 2 here $25.00 each!!! So i snapped them up! God damn! what a difference in price. So i will be buying the rest of the parts through them thats for sure. ;D
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: westy12 on June 30, 2009, 07:02:20 PM
ive said it once and ill say it again, steves wheels in sunshine still has a few beddies kicking around, but youll have to do all the work yourself.... luke
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Warren on June 30, 2009, 07:57:03 PM
Kirk
the HQ master cylinder with bedford booster is a common conversion, I haven't done one, but the new camper has that set up, from what I have heard they only require a bit of filing off the mounting holes to fit. ASnd they will work for drum brakes as well as discs.

As for slave cylinders, get your hands dirty, pull them apart, clean them and then check them for pitting inside the bore.

Often they can get gunked up from sitting around for long periods, check the diaphrams/seals for score marks/wear, usually slave cylinders dont get heavily scored, more likely pitted due to water in the brake fluid and often a simple thorough cleaning, and a light hone will see them as good as new.

if they look OK then hone the bores and re assemble.

If they bores are heavily pitted or the seals seem worn, then take them to a brake specialist and ask if they have kits for them.

Bussiness will try and take advantage of your lack of knowledge, so ask questions, study what you want done, then you dont go in looking like a mark :D

Warren



   
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Kirk on July 01, 2009, 01:03:03 AM
All great advice for someone with mechanical knowledge.....for the first time today i saw inside a brake drum, he showed me both back and front inside, and there is heavy rust, and rust under neath the rubber thingy, like hard rust not just rust dust.

Brakes Plus is a specialst brakes place....now noone has actually said "Kirk i have a reconditioned/new one here for such and such price" noone has said goto such and such he has new/reconditioned ones for much cheaper....everyone has a do it yourself solution, or a modify this and that with a this and that.....

Now i dont think people understand just how little i know.....And yes i could learn it, or maybe teach myself over the next 10yrs how to build a supervan with my bare hands....but i dont have that kinda time, and to be honest i dont like getting my hands too dirty, if its not creative, thats just me.....sure if someone is willing to giveup there time to teach me, then im happy to learn...but there isnt that someone.....and people dont tend to be reliable anyhow.....Now if this was a poker game, i could teach you everything, hell i can tell ya what hand your playing before you even see the hand you made, because thats my specialty, thats what ive spent years involved with. Im not useless, im just not a cars guy, and if Bedfords came brand new, then id save for one, but they dont, so im in this position...

Again....all i need is cheaper prices for parts, that are bedford original parts or parts that fit, and the name of the store or the person i can go buy them from.

Cheers,

Kirk

(please dont get me wrong, i appreciate the advice and yes im certain there is a cheaper method, and im gratefull for the knowledge.)
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Kirk on July 01, 2009, 01:08:11 AM
Getting ya brake shoes .......Its called Rebonded

Cheaper than new ones Fe sure...

part of the quote is rebonding the brake shoes..
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Kirk on July 01, 2009, 01:08:48 AM
My master cylinder cost $200 to re-sleeve...same if not better than new

they put new sleeve in works great...dont get ripped off

whats the name of the company and is there one in victoria?
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Kirk on July 01, 2009, 01:10:35 AM
disk brakes on front are as easy as picking up disks, calipers from the wreckers and ordering the kit from the rod shop...

didn't someone mention its cheaper to take in your old drum brake shoes and get them recovered then telling them they are bedford and ordering new ones?

no way in hell would i pay that much for the booster... go the re sleeve!



what is the name of the shop you took it too? who did you speak too? and what did you say? im sure they would have asked "whats this off?"  have you gotten yours re-sleeved? if so where and how much?
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Kirk on July 01, 2009, 01:11:19 AM
Well just by coincidence, i have been getting some quotes on new brake parts for my old rwd 1980 mazda 626. Now get this...I ring up a brake parts supplier in perth, and say i would like a price on a left and right wheel cyl for my rear drums on my mazda (they come back with $160.00 for the two.(shit ! i said that seems way to high) So i call into a Veale automotive parts shop just around the corner from me.."Yeah mate" we have 2 here $25.00 each!!! So i snapped them up! God damn! what a difference in price. So i will be buying the rest of the parts through them thats for sure. ;D

when i do up a mazda ill be sure to ask you the name of the shop:)
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: Kirk on July 01, 2009, 01:12:41 AM
ive said it once and ill say it again, steves wheels in sunshine still has a few beddies kicking around, but youll have to do all the work yourself.... luke

whats his address? i do need other parts also...just minor things like window wipers and light surrounds and handles and locks...and side mirrors:)
Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: ben on July 01, 2009, 10:22:17 AM
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Brakes Plus is a specialst brakes place....now noone has actually said "Kirk i have a reconditioned/new one here for such and such price" noone has said goto such and such he has new/reconditioned ones for much cheaper....everyone has a do it yourself solution, or a modify this and that with a this and that.....


Kirk it doesnt take much to learn. it is so simple. you just need to try man. i started playing with bedfords 2 years ago. before that i had 0 mechanical knowledge. last few weeks i pulled 4 motors out of beddies and put 2 in. and 1 works lol.

i have said i am always on the end of the phone if you have questions about doing it yourself. but you have not taken me up on the offer.

here is how i work out if i should do it myself or not.

if they are charging me per hour more than i am earning per hour at my day job. i should do it myself:) thats if i can get hold of the tools and could have the expertise.

if you choose to get others to do your work you always gunna pay through the nose.

but heres what id do in your situation.

- grab an orig second hand good master from someone for $60 bucks  (remove and fit yourself)
- get wheel cylinders stainless steel sleved 6 @ $40 each $240 (remove and fit yourself)
- push clean fluid through your brake lines. check to make sure ok. if not get brand new ones made up $70. (remove and fit yourself)


- when you develope more mechanical knwledge or want better braking. buy a disc brake setup from ebay or me $150 (fit yourself)
- Check caliper kits to make sure ok. usually pretty good other wise like $40 each
- throw a hq master cylinder on from ebay $20

i know i make it sound easy, but it is kirk. you just have to start and it will all make sense. its all just common sense.

ben


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Title: Re: Brakes and all esp Master cylinder
Post by: westy12 on July 01, 2009, 06:56:22 PM
yeah mate i agree with ben, bedfords are not the van to have if u have no mech knowledge... theres always something that needs fixing!!! and its not hard, if theres a bolt or nut, undo it and see what happens!!! steves wheels can be found using google but if thats too hard his number is 0417730152. im sure he has some of the little things u want... i will be spending a saturday there soon... maybe we could meet and ill help you? get some old clothes on dude and get dirty!! yeah!!  luke 0416643743
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