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Technical => Driveline => Topic started by: able on June 28, 2009, 06:30:10 PM
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a friend had one sitting there that he bought but didn't use... it has all parts/tubing/fancy saas filter...
he is also giving me a spare lpg gas tank that he is ripping out of a shorty 40.
so here's the thing.
if i go straight gas using two tanks and this vk efi manifold on will i be getting the added power and economy the friend claims?
im reading a mag that claims in a article that if you use this manifold and put a yella terra gas head and a voodoo gas research cam shaft you can get up to 120 hp at the back wheel (up from the standard 65 a red 202 puts out). im not willing to go that far but the friend claims added hp just from the manifold alone.
he also gave me a vk instrument panel... looks in good condition but i was wondering how much work to wire it up in a beddy?
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sounds good if it gives u the extra horsepower but bear in mind that a red 202 has different inlet ports to a blue or black 202. so if the vk has the later model motor u will prob need the head to suit the ports.
just trying to save u some greif.
marty
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can you identify its compatibility from this pic?
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=11742&g2_serialNumber=2)
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cant be 100% sure but looks blue or black.
i think from memory VB RED 202 and VK were BLUE 202
marty
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not looking too far out to me? i could grind out the intake port of the head the few mill differences?
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=11747&g2_serialNumber=2)
sorry for the blurry pic :P
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230351445511 on ebay now, looks black 202 to me,
lol,just seen ur pictures of comparison. nothing a bit of silastic might fix.
marty
p.s. a black or blue 202 head are supposed to be very similar to a red yella terror ie/ bigger valves. , only with the smaller red ports.
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just get someone 2 aluminium weld up the vk manifold inlet ports a bit,
close em up a bit.
marty
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just get someone 2 aluminium weld up the vk manifold inlet ports a bit,
close em up a bit.
marty
that's what im thinking.... or cut and weld the red face plates onto the vk manifold? save a lot of time with the building up process????
i have to get a few things closed off on there anyway...
maybe you can clear something up for me while your in the mood to part with knowledge....
do i still need a charcoal canister and all that anti pollution crap if im straight gas? the friend was saying i can rip it all out?
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rather than weld the manifold id try puttin a vk head on, im sure they fit,
but get a few opinions anyway.
should be heaps better then a red yella terror as it will have the bigger inlet ports,
ull never get a red heads ports as big.
to the best of my knowledge the charcoal canister is for petrol only,
best check with a gas conversion place though.
marty
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G'day
What is the magazine you are reading?
I run a VK efi manifold on a straight gas setup and I highly recommend it.
I also have a Voodod cam, Yella Terra head, and other goodies. The power is awesome. People think the van is a V8 the way it goes, and how I drive it.
Check out the 2 threads:
GRUNT HUNT 202
http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=399.0 (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=399.0)
Question on lpg dual fuel
http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=352.10 (http://www.buga.com.au/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=2&topic=352.10)
There are pictures there of my setup on the second thread.
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hey able yeh i bought a vk efi manifold from the wreckers a little while back for 5 bucks cause it didnt have all the petrol stuff with it. bloke thought it was useless until i told him i was running straight gas (after i bought it of course) hahaha then he was spewen.
so let us know how you go with this. the manifold will act as a tunnel ram effect and produce more power. so they say.
i think the issue that you will face trying to get it to fit the red head is you also have to fit an exhaust around it as well.. now the efi exhaust wont fit neither will the red motor one. id say its much easier to change the head to a blue or black. you just ahve to drill out a few new holes in the water jacket. more info on oldholden.com
cheers
ben
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I always thought they would be an easy manifold to modify and run a side draught weber (or something
a long those lines) on if you didnt have a gas set up.
just a thought. :)
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thanks for the info guys my mind is ticking!
BlackBedford, the mag is "high-tech performance" the guy who had the manifold lent me the mag so i can have a good look.
it does show what looks to be the manifold directly mounted on to a standard red.
(http://www.buga.com.au/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=11754&g2_serialNumber=2)
what sort of price are we talking about with cam shafts?
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just got of the phone to geelong's no1 engine mod stop...
asked them what is the go change heads/grind out ports on the red head ect ect..
they have done them for red 202's before but its been a while, they build up the manifold to match the red head and machine it flat, it costs between $80-$100.
i thing he said they grind out some of the middle separating part aswell, im not sure if that is what he said as the phone connection was not the best.
so marty your first guess was how they usually do it.... i think they also grind up cam shafts for less the half price.