Sound Deadener Group Buy Round 2 (Dynamat type product)

[MaTTe]

Hey Ladies and Gents,

I am putting together another Group Buy for which I have previous moderator approval.
If you wish to read up on the previous group buy, the thread is HERE


I again have access to a new product made to the same specifications of Dynamat Extreme:
The details of which are below:

Total Thickness: 1.7mm (70-75mil) Approx (same as Dynamat)
Surface Coating: 0.12mm (5mil) aluminum foil reinforce liner(same as Dynamat)
Core material: black butyl (same as Dynamat)
Back: wax paper release liner (better than Dynamat it doesn't deteriorate like the paper backed stuff which can be difficult to remove)


The product has no logo simply for the reason it appeals to genuine restores, builders and repair shops. As genuine vehicle builders will know, it is difficult to source OEM spec materials, let alone ones without marketing graphics pasted all over them. In my opinion these things can date the build of your vehicle especially when trying to improve it and not bastardise it. The lack of logos also reduce wastage from trying to keep the logos lined up.

How does it compare to "Dynamat"; it doesn't have Chip's head on the box and is manufactured directly for an Australian company not an American one, therefore I can get it at a competitive price. I am passionate about building cars therefor focused on usable quality and afford-ability of product.

Besides the acoustic and heat insulation properties, lining the insides of exterior sheet metal is quite beneficial when it comes to surfacing and paint prep, more so on later model thin metal vehicles. The foil coated sound deadener adds a second skin to the doors (for example) stiffening them up when they are sanded.





Un-branded aluminum coated butyl mat is suitable for the genuine vehicle enthusiast / builder who demands today’s high end performance, without the aftermarket generic branding that can date your vehicle.

Butyl Mat is today’s lightweight alternative to traditional bitumen underbody and inner body dampening. Butyl Mat has a high temperature resistance and together with an aluminum foil coating it works to reduce the transfer of heat and sound coming in and going out.

The package contains
9 x Sheets @ 460mm x 810mm
Total area = 3.35m2 or 36sq ft

Product Specs
Appearance:
Black butyl based core with 4 mil aluminum constrain layer with wax paper release liner
Dimensions
Total Thickness: 1.7mm (70-75mil) Approx
Surface Coating: 0.12mm (5mil) aluminum foil reinforce liner
Core material: black butyl
Back: wax paper release liner


To compare butyl mat with bitumen mat, see below

Butyl Mat
Flexible through out tempreature range
No heat required to apply
Easy to cut
Non Marking, clean to apply
Chemical Resistant
No smell

VS

Bitumen mat
Brittle in cold temperature
Heat required to apply
Difficult to cut
Smudges and smears
Non-resistant to chemicals
Omits odour


This product retails for $200 per box + $20 shipping which is about $20 cheaper than Dynamat.
I can get the price down to $150 per box + $25 shipping if I can get orders for 25 boxes or more.
I have advertised this same group buy on a couple of other forums to help get the numbers up so we can get this deal even if the numbers are not possible on this forum alone.

The supplier is about to complete production of the next batch, so we should be able to get as many boxes as we need in about 4 weeks or so.

This will suit most people as not everyone has the money or are ready to buy instantly. If you are ready to buy now I will be having to buy in minimum lots of 25 boxes to get the price listed above, although if we have an order for more this should not be a problem. As I said, this will not be a problem for most people, however I though I should outline the situation to prevent any heartache.

I ended up having the boxes shipped direct after organising the shipping from my end which was quite a headache, however it was better done this way than having mistakes made by a third party. This also means you can make payment to me direct so that I can keep track of the whole process personally. The shipping costs varied state to state, so I will give you an accurate shipping cost based on the previous group buy when discussing your order. The highest shipping cost was $30odd to Tasmania, the median price was around $20.

Anyone that is interested is more than welcome to comment in this thread, however when you want to make a firm order I would prefer a PM so that I can get your name and address for shipping, as well as to discuss payment and keep track of orders...

I am willing to accept bank deposits, or cash (if you are in perth), or money orders(if you are not in perth)

If you have any questions not covered above, let me know and I'll attempt to clear up any confusion.

Danc666 from Perthfalcons has been kind enough to allow the use of photos from his install to help gauge the coverage. After the following pictures he had 3 sheets left over











Send me a PM if you wish to place an order so I can add you to the spreadsheet, as comments in the thread will only be treated as comments until an firm order has been placed in PM.

Cheers,
Matte

[wendyh]

Hi Matte...cant belive ur postin this...we just watched overhaulin the other nite on foxtell and i noticed they were usin dynamat  on a VW van...& i was gunna look it up on google....so very good timing .....as were thinkin about linin our beddy swb van with it...now im not good with math..so how many boxes do u reckon we would need to line the inside of van floors, doors, walls n ceiling??? Are u lining a beddy van too?  can u send us a PM with ur phone number please? very keen to join in on order!

[vintageholden]

i,ll have abox please

[jesus_is_alright]

.....as were thinkin about linin our beddy swb van with it...now im not good with math..so how many boxes do u reckon we would need to line the inside of van floors, doors, walls n ceiling???

My Guestimations for a SWB


CARGO AREA

Floor          2.6x1.7            4.42m2          $197
Wall (ea)    2.6x1.3            3.38m2       $151ea
Roof          2.6x1.6            4.16m2          $186
Rear          1.8x1.3            2.34m2          $104

CABIN

Floor          1.3x1.3            1.69m2          $75
Engine Cvr  0.6x0.8            0.48m2          $21
Doors (ea)  1.0x0.8            0.80m2          $35
Roof          1.6x0.9            1.44m2          $64

CARGO AREA TOTAL =      17.68m2 =5.2 boxes =$791
CABIN TOTAL =                4.41m2 = 1.3 boxes =$197
TOTAL =                         22.09m2 = 6.5 boxes = $988

MaTTe, does this sound about right?

[jesus_is_alright]

Danc666 from Perthfalcons has been kind enough to allow the use of photos from his install to help gauge the coverage. After the following pictures he had 3 sheets left over

How many boxes did he have to start with?

[MaTTe]

Hey fellas and Wendy, i'll work my way down..

Wendy, I will be lining part of my van, however my van already has insulation foam covering most of the walls and roof, so my van wont need the coverage of a van that has an original interior. PM sent

Vintageholden, no worries PM sent also

Jesus, good work mate, I am far too slack to do that much maths.. But the numbers look pretty good. from memory I think 6 boxes has been quoted in the past. It basically comes down to how much coverage you want.. You can cover absolutely everything, then build your interior over the top, or you can build your interior and then cover the areas left exposed as wood and other materials will have an insulative effect.
Another thing to think about is that nearly $1000 dollars (going by your estimations) is alot for most people so you can focus on the parts most essential to start with. For instance, do the doors to reduce wind noise and reduce the rattle when closed, do the firewall and engine cover plus cabin floor to reduce heat, then maybe the roof to reduce heat also, and you may get away with 2 boxes. Then you can add to this when the cash flow/desire dictates.

Danc666 had 1 box when he did his falcon, so of the 9 sheets he used 6 to do the inside and outside of the front doors, the boot and the parcel shelf. Most people wouldn't necessarily do the inside and outside of the doors, but if you have speakers in the doors or want the maximum reduction of outer noises then inside and outside are the way to go.


Cheers,
Matte

[Warren]

Matte

I'll go another box please

Warren

[wendyh]

Ahhh Way to go Aaron ...thanx for ur brain power there....ok will have to really think about where we want it...our vans totally strpped back to bare inside n out so best time to do it is now...yeah maybe in front cabin on firewall and floor...def ceiling...have to see how the bugets going...errr i think its nearly gone lol!    we thought  a quick coat of paint... yeah wont take much .....???i think that could go in the quote section !
thanx guys for your input ...Wendy

[obsession]

me too
please   

[MaTTe]

Warren, I'll copy your details across from the last order. Just confirming 1 box?

Wendy, take your time, you have atleast 3 weeks to decide how you want to proceed.

Craig, PM sent

Cheers,
Matte